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Vibram 5 fingers

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by CTGuy, Jul 17, 2009.

  1. why

    why Senior member

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    Normal running shoes never made sense to me to begin with.

    Aside from the plantar fasciitis argument, I think it's pretty evident that barefoot running (or at least running without a raised heel) will improve running speed.
     
  2. adversity04

    adversity04 Senior member

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    Plantar fasciitis was clearly mentioned in my initial post above. Foot pain is one of its symptoms.
    Whoops missed that in my response to you, though causation is still not present - especially since you stated that you've been using NIKE FREES for the past couple years.
    I just looked at my Free 3.0s, the least supportive model, and it's ~3/4 of an inch of rubber at the heel with ~1/4 inch at the toes. That's a substantial amount when compared to barefoot and using the VFFs. They're different and as such will produce a different effect. I would say I've noticed it, but that probably isn't worth a grain of salt. I also had a noticeable effect when I switched from regular running shoes to Frees years ago.

    And this is where typing in message boards causes confusion. My original response was going to be something along the lines of 'if you want to do marketing hype then look to the Newtons' and was going to say to go Google up the advantages of barefoot running. Those advantages are the reasons I have used Frees and now VFFs which is what I was pointing out. Instead, I just provided the link to show that there is evidence out there showing that there are benefits. You then took it as SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET IS ATTACKING ME which caused your reply. This then caused me to think you're an ass which prompted mine. My bad on not including more in my initial reply to you. Yours for not knowing what I was thinking [​IMG]

    Probably too incomplete of a response, but oh well.
     
  3. upnorth

    upnorth Senior member

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    retronotmetro, I could not agree more with your response. I think there are too many responses here and other forums from barefoot zealots refuting other peoples opinions, almost to the point of attacking them.

    I posted my less than stellar opinions about vibram and stated that they do not work for some people but was immediately refuted by adversity04. I also cautioned against the use of their size chart and I don't think it was a wise move to make specific suggestions to rely on the size charts as they might not work for everyone.

    If it works for you great, but don't make assumptions that it will work for everyone.
     
  4. adversity04

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    ^Panties in a twist much? I responded with things in my experience and opinion which I made clear. And I didn't respond to everything because you had some valid points. Go back and re-read it.
     
  5. Zenny

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    My sister ordered a pair, but she didnt end up using them. Unfortunately they are a size too small for me, so all my toes fit perfectly apart from my pinky toe, which makes walking hurt alot.

    Is there any shape difference between the male/female sizes? Different footshape etc?
     
  6. Figdog

    Figdog New Member

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    I used them. Did not feel any difference from my regular snickers. For running it seems that snickers would absorb more impact on hard surface.
     
  7. adversity04

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    ^
    http://nymag.com/health/features/46213/
    Long article, but pretty good as it hits a bunch of points about the subject with some studies referenced.
     
  8. upnorth

    upnorth Senior member

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    Interesting this study should be brought up. I was wondering if any of you have experience in going the "barefoot way" for a period of time before returning back to normal running shoes.

    I personally did that going from asics to frees to vibram, back to frees and then asics. I notice after the period of barefoot training that going back to my running shoes, I felt better and clocked better timing with no pain. Therefore, nowadays, I just mixed it all up and I simply refuse to take sides.
     
  9. upnorth

    upnorth Senior member

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    I used them. Did not feel any difference from my regular snickers. For running it seems that snickers would absorb more impact on hard surface.

    I don't know about absorbing shock but snickers certainly gave my body energy and helped me keep hunger at bay.
     
  10. MonkeyFresh

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    Just bought the KSO model from city sports NYC yesterday, can't wait to give them their test run later in the day [​IMG] just a question about the sizing... My foot fits pretty snug in the shoe (I bought a sz. 43 KSO), my heel fits nice no slippage, but the fingers of the shoe dont perfectly fit my toes in length My big toe fits perfectly but my other toes dont match up to the very tip of the fingers of the shoe is this how the fit is suppose to be? everything else feels spot on besides that but let me know what you guys think, whether i should sz down more or keep for reference I'm a : sz. 9 RW GT sz. 9 Clark's DB sz 10 in most Vans, Nikes, Adidas, and Converse JP
     
  11. adversity04

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    The toes are going to fit differently based on each length so there is no "right" way to have those fit. The measuring chart:

    [​IMG]

    If you look at #4 and 5 it points out differences in foot size and toe length. If they fit your big toe I wouldn't worry about it. Mine are a bit tight on everything except my big toe, but that's just because of my lengths.
     
  12. Nosu3

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    My big toe fits perfectly but my other toes dont match up to the very tip of the fingers of the shoe
    is this how the fit is suppose to be?


    Yeah, that's usual for these.
     
  13. Crane's

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    I'm going to try these for hiking and climbing.
     
  14. MonkeyFresh

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    Yeah, that's usual for these.
    Thanks for the assurance [​IMG] you to adversity, I didn't wanna bother with the measuring so i just went to a store and tried them on but I'm sure I got the sizing perfect
    I'm going to try these for hiking and climbing.
    I'll be going next weekend camping with some buddies up in the adirondacks, will definitely be bringing these along for a hike and maybe a trail run early one day, I'll be sure to post my experience Tried my KSO's for their trial run the other night tho, I've fallen in love with them [​IMG] My feet felt fine, no soreness, I've always gone barefoot around my house, and when I play frisbee in the grass so I think my feet were already pretty strong, but I'll definitely be sure to slowly up the milage, I did a fairly slowly paced 3 mile my first run in them and my feet held up fine, walked another 1.5 afterwards as well My first inital steps were a bit rough as there was a rocky patch of ground and I could feel every little rock but after a a few minutes of running and a little more awareness to my footing, nothing much bothered me through the 5 fingers thin soles Also, I decided to sprint the last leg of the 3 mile, I felt like i was flying... it was an exhilarating experience and I look forward to more runs in my KSO 5 fingers [​IMG]
     
  15. adversity04

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    I had to use the measurements cause noone near me sells them [​IMG]

    Wait to feel your legs tomorrow [​IMG]
     
  16. MonkeyFresh

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    wow, went for another run last night with my KSO's on, only 2 miles then walked the last mile
    the first run i went on with these, I was running as if I simply had shoes on, so i was striking with my heel mostly
    last night tho I focused on striking with front/ balls of my feet... needless to say my legs feel real tight today... especially my calves, and the soles of my feet are a little sore too but a good kind of sore [​IMG]
    it'll definitely take some time to transition from my asics to these... but I think the benefits will be worth it
     
  17. js4design

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    just got a pair of the kso, and the woman liked me so she gave me the military discount (despite me saying i wasn't in the military), so with tax only 73 bucks. will try tonight...
     
  18. Crane's

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    I'll be going next weekend camping with some buddies up in the adirondacks, will definitely be bringing these along for a hike and maybe a trail run early one day, I'll be sure to post my experience


    How did they work out hiking? By any chance did you climb boulders or any other kind of rock?
     
  19. js4design

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    finally got a chance to take them out for a spin. took some concentration to strike with the ball at first but i felt great the whole time. i was trail running and it felt completely different to my pumas and my nike frees. will probably use every other day until i get used to them and can start logging some real mileage...
     
  20. unjung

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    How did they work out hiking? By any chance did you climb boulders or any other kind of rock?

    I would not use VFFs on trails with significant numbers of exposed, sharp rocks. Many trails in my area of the Rockies are like this and I can't see them working too well. That said, if I was doing a multi-day trip, combining backpacking with hiking and scrambling, I would bring them along.
     

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