Ventless jacket streotype

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Originally Posted by Cary Grant

Flusser Fail.
Luck at poker make for a recent addition to my wardrobe ... a ventless bespoke coat ... by Flusser. Obviously he will make -- or have made -- what the customer wants.

 

[Allen]

Originally Posted by gdl203

Way to start a thread about stereotypes...

Well, that was not my point

) I was pointing out that I'm closer to Italy than the other countries(US and UK).

Originally Posted by tazmaniac

Well, I'm from the most central of Continental Europe and I certainly don't get a lot of ventless jackets here. Do you live in some kind of time warp?

Well, mind you, I'm from East Europe. Maybe we have more italian influence here(it sounds kinda weird tho), I don't know, it just so happens that it's full of ventless jackets here

 

[MrG]

Originally Posted by gdl203

Way to start a thread about stereotypes...

In his defense, the thread explicitly addresses a "streotype [sic]," so he really has no particular duty to defy stereotypes.

 

[Ich_Dien]

I do see a lot of ventless here.

 

[Dewey]

How do we get from "leaner, sexier" to "feminine"?

Girlish jackets are short (ass exposing) and tightly fitted at the waist.

Look at the women's jackets on Brooks Brothers. BB provides the rear view for some products. The lady jackets often have center vents. Nothing masculine or feminine about vents of any kind.

 

[Cary Grant]

Originally Posted by bigbris1

Please explain. I'm no Flusser follower but when I searched this excerpt hit's the nail on the head.

Originally Posted by Dewey

How do we get from "leaner, sexier" to "feminine"?


^^This. You said "feminine" whereas Flusser is complimenting the look as leaner, sexier etc. He cites that it may not be as convenient but that's up to the wearer.

The coat I'm having made now will be ventless. I'm really starting to hate the dbl vent on me.

 

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Double vents look particularly bad with a "teacup booty." This is not to suggest that anyone in this thread has one.

 

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Dewey

How do we get from "leaner, sexier" to "feminine"?

Girlish jackets are short (ass exposing) and tightly fitted at the waist.

Look at the women's jackets on Brooks Brothers. BB provides the rear view for some products. The lady jackets often have center vents. Nothing masculine or feminine about vents of any kind.

+1

 

[landshark]

I think that all jackets should have vents, or at the very least all the jackets that I own should. Here is a great example: A beautiful Giorgio Armani jacket in my size, in a pattern I have sort of been looking for, at a great price, and ventless

It's a deal breaker for me, unfortunately

 

[Guero]

Originally Posted by landshark

It's a deal breaker for me, unfortunately

+1. To me it connotes a certain '80s vibe that I don't want to project -- like heavily padded shoulders and plunging gorges. I view it as only appropriate in a dinner jacket. Otherwise, it just seems, somehow, less evolved from a functional perspective.

 

[Reevolving]

I prefer ventless. Manton's book also espouses ventless for certain body types.

 

[Mr. Mystery]

I prefer double to single because single always tends to flare out and stay that way, giving a bad line to the look. I recently bought a single, because I liked the jacket and have planned to sew it down enuff to look like a vent but not to open. Otherwise I would sew it half way down so it doesn't have as much fabric to flare up. I also prefer the look of double. Pre SF I thought no vent was the best, but now I think it looks like it's missing something. I'd prefer single vent sewn to look and feel like like no vent, but to keep the detail, over no vent at all.

 

[GiltEdge]

What we, whether it is Flusser himself, Rykken, or the other clothiers here at AF Custom tell our customers is that simply the double vented jackets gives the best shape to the customers body, ventless jackets have the benefit of having a more dramatic drape (ie: Armani and A&S...think of Fred Astaire in The Band Wagon dance scene). A single vent takes away from the body shape and drape of a jacket, especially soft tailored ones. If you want to dig into society and class, single vented jackets are frowned upon, I'd go as far as to say a "commoner" style or "unsophisticated," a word I've heard it described as many times.

 

[westinghouse]

Originally Posted by bigbris1

Dual vents only here. I don't want to look like a woman from behind and like to have easy access to my pockets.

What makes you think you don't look like a woman from the front?

 

[itsstillmatt]

Originally Posted by PaoloM

If you want to dig into society and class, single vented jackets are frowned upon, I'd go as far as to say a "commoner" style or "unsophisticated," a word I've heard it described as many times.

This is sickening.