Vass Old English II, Oxblood, F Last, 43 EU

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  1. sho'nuff

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    Great choice. I went for the same thing except on the U last.

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    HOOAH!
    Andrew, do you know if vass can put a medallion on the old english II?

    I need this pair in dark brown or navy U last.
     
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    Degendorff Senior member

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    It should be no problem since Vass Shoes are MTO. Afaik they do not have a retail production.
     
  3. sho'nuff

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    Chris,
    would it be possible if you can post up length and width measurements of the sole of your F last shoes?

    i want to get a gauge as to what my F size would be if i intend to order a pair in the future . thanks
     
  4. aportnoy

    aportnoy Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    HOOAH!
    Andrew, do you know if vass can put a medallion on the old english II?

    I need this pair in dark brown or navy U last.


    Absolutely no problem. In the same order, I had them add a medallion to the U last monk strap.
     
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    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    Nice choice. I like the look of the F-last with that configuration.

    The F-last has really been growing on me and is what I'll order if I get another pair of Vass (which I don't really anticipate at this point).
     
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    von Rothbart Senior member

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    Well done, Chris, welcome to the club. Once you have Vass there's no turning back. I remember mine has seamless heel counter.
     
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    Girardian Senior member

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    Both this and the U last version are beautiful to behold. This is what "cosolidating your resources" is all about. Shoe perfection.
     
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    william Senior member

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    Well done, Chris, welcome to the club. Once you have Vass there's no turning back. I remember mine has seamless heel counter.

    Yea I noticed....also they didn't give me two-colored soles. Maybe mine were made on a Friday afternoon. [​IMG]

    Not that either detail matters to anyone except us obsessive shoe hounds.
     
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    grimslade Senior member

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    Well done, Chris, welcome to the club. Once you have Vass there's no turning back. I remember mine has seamless heel counter.

    How could a shoe with that design have a seamless heel counter?
     
  10. sho'nuff

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    How could a shoe with that design have a seamless heel counter?

    correct.

    von are you sure?

    these are the old english II. the seam that sweeps from the eyelet does not go to the sole, but goes back up as a 'heel counter' seam.

    so thus, the heel, should not have a seam unless that section and all along the quarters and vamp is a wholecut cut.


    the old english medallion captoe , has a SEPARATE heel counter piece, thus there is no seam on the back.

    i hope everyone understands my point above.

    but if you are sure about your english II, von, then you may have a special cut!
     
  11. sho'nuff

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    Yea I noticed....also they didn't give me two-colored soles. Maybe mine were made on a Friday afternoon. [​IMG]

    Not that either detail matters to anyone except us obsessive shoe hounds.


    Chris,
    also dont concern over the two tone sole.

    vass just paints on the black part. it is originally a oak bark sole, but they just paint the spade design on back but i dont know what they use for that varnish black.
    look at the photos of other vass CLOSELY where the two tone is present.
    you will see they are all painted,
    see here check out mine (that i sold):

    [​IMG]


    what may be the difference though is if you have a single sole or double sole.

    i prefer the double soles, as they have a thicker forefront but a slimmer waist area so it gives it a more elegant 'sweep'
     
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    emptym Moderator Moderator

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    emptym:
    Regarding sizing...these fit unlike any shoe I own. I'm basically a 10D or a 10.5C (US sizes) depending on the last. The closest fitting shoe to these would be my C&J Belgraves/337 in 9E UK. Hope that helps a little.


    It does. Thank you.
     
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    Simply sublime.
     
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    william Senior member

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    vr's Old English Plain w/ seamless heel counter: [​IMG] Shoe/Brian: Thanks for the explanation. I knew two-colored soles were just painted...I just like the look of it. Too minor to worry about though...just thought I'd mention it.
     
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    Chris,
    do you see why this heel counter on the old english does NOT have a seam?

    because it is a seperate heel counter piece.

    your old english II heal is continuous with the vamp and sides.
    thus it would be very difficult to fit that leather piece without the heal seam. basically, it will have to be some sort of a wholecut 'donut' leather piece.
     

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