VASS F Last questions.

[Suurreal]

I am planning on ordering a pair of Vass boots, however, I am concerned about the fit of the lasts. Im in Los Angeles and I have to get my sizing via email. Im sure some have dealt with this.

I generally wear an 11 to 11.5 US. My foot is just under 11 inches, about 10.9 inches. I dont have a high instep and have a regular width. I looked through the threads and I cant find a consensus of the F last fit.. some say get it bigger, some smaller.

The last thing I want to do is pay over a grand on some shoes, wait a month or so for them to arrive, drool over how they look, and then realize they dont fit.

Any help?

 

[Eustace Tilley]

Well, for starters, figure out your true US size - is it 11.0 or 11.5?

I'm an 11 (sorry, never measured my foot) and the 44.5 in the Vass F is a perfect fit for me.

 

[RogerP]

You're not likely going to get real consensus when it comes to e-sizing. TTS is pretty much a myth, and there is absolutely no consistency when it comes to sizing between different brands. I can wear a US 9.5 to US 10.5 and UK 8.5 to UK 9.5 depending on brand, last and design.

If your review of the sizing info on the Vass thread results in a close call, I say go with the Euro equivalent of an 11.5. Better a little big than a little small.

FWIW, I wear the same size in Vass U, K and F lasts. I really don't understand those who size up / down between them as they essentially fit the same but for the toe box, which is more round in F, chiseled in U and even more chiseled in K.

 

[Suurreal]



Well, for starters, figure out your true US size - is it 11.0 or 11.5?

I'm an 11 (sorry, never measured my foot) and the 44.5 in the Vass F is a perfect fit for me.

Well, I guess Im an 11. In Crockett and Edward Green, Im an 11 US. I know they are English makers, but I got them for US sale.

Are the shoes long, do you have room in the front? Do they look bigger than your other dress shoes that are an 11? Is the instep ok, ie do they tie tight with laces together and if so, do you still have slight room in the instep?

THANKS

 

[Grammaton Cleric]



Better a little big than a little small.

I disagree.

Any shoe can be stretched out by a half-decent cobbler by half a size. The alternative, getting a shoe too big, involves wearing chunky woolen socks in mid-July!

If you're an 11US on Edward Green, go for the 44.5 as ET suggested.

 

[Suurreal]



I disagree.

Any shoe can be stretched out by a half-decent cobbler by half a size. The alternative, getting a shoe too big, involves wearing chunky woolen socks in mid-July!

If you're an 11US on Edward Green, go for the 44.5 as ET suggested.

I intend on getting the double sole and Vass seems to have a pronounce heel. I dont want to look like a clown.

The outsole measurements of the the F in a 44.5, per Ascot in England, are 13 inches. Thats half an inch larger than any shoes I wear now. Also, with a rounded toe, that seems excessively large.

 

[RogerP]

I disagree.

Any shoe can be stretched out by a half-decent cobbler by half a size. The alternative, getting a shoe too big, involves wearing chunky woolen socks in mid-July!

Well I said he wouldn't get consensus.

I've had little or no success getting shoes stretched that were too small out of the box. And the pain is no fun. The alternative needn't be thick socks - and insole often solves the problem entirely.

Better to get a perfect fit, of course.but if I am going to miss, I will always miss large. Shoes that are too small are simply unwearable. My Dad, who wears a half-size smaller than I do, has inherited about 3 or 4 nice pairs from me over the last few years for just that reason.

 

[Suurreal]

Also, so far you have all said go half size up.... why is that? Is the shoe narrow? Wouldnt a 44 equal a size 11 US?

 

[Grammaton Cleric]



I intend on getting the double sole and Vass seems to have a pronounce heel. I dont want to look like a clown.

The outsole measurements of the the F in a 44.5, per Ascot in England, are 13 inches. Thats half an inch larger than any shoes I wear now. Also, with a rounded toe, that seems excessively large.

Jesus.

 

[RogerP]

Also, so far you have all said go half size up.... why is that? Is the shoe narrow? Wouldnt a 44 equal a size 11 US?

I haven't said that at all.

YOU said you wear either an 11 or 11.5 US. Based on that thin bit of info, I suggested that if it is a close call between the two, go larger. I have no idea how these shoes will actually fit you in either size. And just to break the suspense - no-one else does, either.

 

[Suurreal]



I haven't said that at all.

YOU said you wear either an 11 or 11.5 US.  Based on that thin bit of info, I suggested that if it is a close call between the two, go larger.  I have no idea how these shoes will actually fit you in either size.  And just to break the suspense - no-one else does, either.

Why are you responding if you have no idea how they fit? If I needed regular shoe fitting advice, I would ask a schmo off the street and let him call me a marsupial. I dont need your input if you dont have specific knowledge.

 

[Suurreal]



Well I said he wouldn't get consensus.  I've had little or no success getting shoes stretched that were too small out of the box.  And the pain is no fun.  The alternative needn't be thick socks - and insole often solves the problem entirely.

Better to get a perfect fit, of course.but if I am going to miss, I will always miss large.  Shoes that are too small are simply unwearable.  My Dad, who wears a half-size smaller than I do, has inherited about 3 or 4 nice pairs from me over the last few years for just that reason.

I didnt see this. My goal is not to miss. Thats why I posted this thread. I dont want to waste a grand.

 

[fulllavor]

How do you know me, I really don't understand those who size up / down between them as they essentially fit the same but for the toe box, which is more round in F, chiseled in U and even more chiseled in k.ooo

 

[Grammaton Cleric]



How do you know me, I really don't understand those who size up / down between them as they essentially fit the same but for the toe box, which is more round in F, chiseled in U and even more chiseled in k.ooo

FWIW, I go up a full size on the U last. They certainly don't fit the same.

 

[Analyazum]

Hi, as you are aware of, VASS is relatively half size bigger than EG GG. And F last which is Italian, I recommend to go same size you are (US 11). Because you do not have wide feet and high instep so they are going to be slipped well in F last. Also always it is easy to be stretched from a little bit tight fitting but impossible to shorten.

In reality I think both size will go well because they are boots so you are going to wear think socks anyway?