Discussion in 'Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o' started by LA Guy, Apr 19, 2014.
Here's the Vanson C2 in blue...
Yes, I like the coin pocket too, I don't want something too minimalist. The double rider is supposed to be a bold piece: someone looking for a minimalist leather jacket should look for another model, like a cafe racer.
Not sure about the belt. If the jacket is a bit longer and covers your jean's belt, it could be ok. If not, it looks a bit odd to have a double belt!
The back is really important on the look and fit of the jacket. Does anyone have a picture of the Junya DR back? If we decide on a non-bike riding model, we could forego the side pleats and make it look cleaner.
I actually disagree. If we're going for a slim fit, then shoulder gussets would be a good way of increasing range of movement.
Yes, I meant "slim", not constrictingly tight, I should be more careful when I write on SW&D.
This back looks clean enough, actually. Thanks.
'Slim' is a really subjective term and we're gonna need to clarify at some point exactly how far we're going with that. To me the appeal of this project is not only that it's being made to a high standard with real, quality leather, something you can't get from a Toj joint, but truth be told you can get that at any time from Vanson/Aero. What sets it apart is the fashion stylings, like the high armholes and sleek silhouette. The Junya jacket is exceptional, and it'd be silly to expect precisely the same thing at 1/4 the price.
But I'd like to be sure that it's going to be actually slim by fashion standards, not by typical Vanson standards. I made the mistake of buying a Vanson jacket off of Aero some years ago and while it was hard as nails and well-built, my normal size was like wearing a big leather sail. Had to sell that one, would like to avoid doing this a second time.
I think it's going to be hard to tell someone just to 'slim up' a jacket. Drew was apparently able to make jackets with a nice cut, but from what I saw there was a lot of trial and error involved in getting the pattern ratios correct, and they still usually looked off on bigger guys. I think trying to make these look like a Rick jacket or the original junya is going to be difficult, but just taking an inch or two out of the arms and back will go a long way while retaining the classic look.
@Thurston Bros - are Talon zippers the ones originally used by Schott to make their first jackets? Might be a cool detail if so, but YKK or the like is also fine.
TOJ jackets are basically a 1:1 copy of the iconic Margiela joint with a few minor modifications.
Brian, which TOJ model are you talking about?
Guys, Vanson has been doing slim fits for the Japanese market for years, not to mention all the collage. They know how to slim up a jacket. And yeah, @Brian SD, I am sizing down 2 for the trial, so yeah, your normal fashion size would not have worked.
The first jacket, 5-zip moto.
Maybe the Vansons I've seen in Japan are imported and not made to Japanese specs, but they're still pretty beefy, especially in the arms.
I don't know if it's a good idea to hype up the new affiliate by dissing out the old one.
I'm curious what jacket is this Margiela joint you mentioned?
^Not sure what you mean with the first part, but I think he's referring to this model.
this is a copy of the 5zip by TOJ?
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