Untucked shirts are cool?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by odoreater

Personally, I do most of my posting while sitting in the bathroom.

Thanks Odor, just a tad more info than I needed to know

 

[epa]

Originally Posted by Newton

Since I took to wearing shirts outside of the office I have always tucked them in.

I tuck them in with jeans.

I am in my 20s. I also think they look quite good. The style of the shirt is more casual, the jeans are nice, it's a good belt and good shoes. It's just like tucking the shirt with chinos.

Given that most other young whipper-snappers choose to go untucked I like feeling unique. I'm also recognised amongst my peer group as someone who dresses well.

If you want to climb above lowest-common-denominator style, I would say.. tuck it in!

I guess that an underlying reason for mis dislike of untucked shirts is that it seems part of this "dressed down is cool" trend. Destroyed and dirty jeans, raggy clothes (not just worn out, but actually destroyed on purpose, for example, like these jeans that hang down below your shoes so that you step on them). I just cannot understand what is cool about it - it just makes me think of spoiled kids that don't have to worry about their clothes becaused dad paid for them anyway...

Now, this does not mean that I find untucked shirts to be just as silly as this stupid (IMO) fashion of wearing clothes that have been destroyed on purpose. I guess that it is just that it seems part of the same supposedly cool deal...

 

[odoreater]

Originally Posted by epa

I guess that an underlying reason for mis dislike of untucked shirts is that it seems part of this "dressed down is cool" trend. Destroyed and dirty jeans, raggy clothes (not just worn out, but actually destroyed on purpose, for example, like these jeans that hang down below your shoes so that you step on them). I just cannot understand what is cool about it - it just makes me think of spoiled kids that don't have to worry about their clothes becaused dad paid for them anyway...

Now, this does not mean that I find untucked shirts to be just as silly as this stupid (IMO) fashion of wearing clothes that have been destroyed on purpose. I guess that it is just that it seems part of the same supposedly cool deal...

What do you think of antiquing shoes then?

 

[epa]

Originally Posted by odoreater

What do you think of antiquing shoes then?
I do not follow you. Treating something to give it a nicer finnish is not the same as destroying it in order to look "scruffy", IMO.

 

[Jovan]

The last time I wore a shirt with jeans, it was tucked in and I was wearing a sweater over it. It seemed to work pretty well, moreso than if I let the tails out.

 

[lasbar]

As usual ,i do not think there is an universal response ,etiquette because you do need to adapt what you're wearing to the situation you're evolving in... Untucked shirt or not ,the most parameter is the way you feel about it....
Do you want to shock ,to be different or to follow the ruling etiquette?

 

[odoreater]

Originally Posted by epa

I do not follow you. Treating something to give it a nicer finnish is not the same as destroying it in order to look "scruffy", IMO.

Well, the whole point of antiquing a pair of shoes is to basically make them look like they are older and have been worn and used for a while. It's basically the same idea behind distressing jeans - that is, people think that something looks better as it ages, or at least has more character as it ages, and try to unnaturally speed up the aging process.

So, how is taking some acetone or rubbing alcohol to a pair of shoes to make them look older and more used different from distressing a pair of jeans?

 

[j]

He was talking about jeans that look destroyed, not just worn and cared for, like the ones with "dirty" washes and trashed hems, etc. These would be analogous to the shoes that are coming out now that are all curled up and scraped to death like someone wore them every day and never polished them, as opposed to the antiquing most of us try to do which simulates a history of careful wear.

 

[odoreater]

Originally Posted by j

He was talking about jeans that look destroyed, not just worn and cared for, like the ones with "dirty" washes and trashed hems, etc. These would be analogous to the shoes that are coming out now that are all curled up and scraped to death like someone wore them every day and never polished them, as opposed to the antiquing most of us try to do which simulates a history of careful wear.

I guess, but on the other hand he was saying that "untucked shirts [are] part of this 'dressed down is cool' trend. Destroyed and dirty jeans, raggy clothes..." I mean, is having your shirt untucked really part of wearing the whole "destroyed jeans" thing? I wear my shirt untucked sometimes, but I don't wear destroyed or dirty-washed jeans.

I just don't see wearing an untucked shirt as being part of the whole trend that he was talking about (i.e., destroyed jeans), or a part of the trend of wearing the curled up and scraped to death shoes.

I don't think you can say on the one hand that wearing an untucked shirt is part of that trend, and on the other hand say that antiquing shoes is somehow not analogous.

He also said that what bothers him about the whole trend is that it makes it seem like those people don't care about their clothes because their dads paid for them. On the other hand, most people would not pay $200 - $1000 for a pair of shoes and then take acetone and rubbing alcohol to them. Me and you have done it, but does that mean that our dads bought the shoes for us and we don't care (and keep in mind that some people have posted pictures here of shoes that they have tried to antique, but that ended up looking like ****)? I don't think so. It's just that we happen to be into the hobby (or whatever you want to call it) of "hooking up" our shoes, and some people are in the hobby of doing the same to their jeans. I don't really think it says anything more about the people.

 

[lakewolf]

I confess, I wore my semi-destroyed jeans, chelsea boots and an untucked striped shirt to the club tonight...

I spent the evening with some pretty girls and we were dancing all night... bliss

I didn't think for a moment about the sartorial correctness of wearing my shirt out... sorry

 

[Charley]

Originally Posted by masqueofhastur

Unless you're wearing a suit jacket or sports coat, I think a tucked in shirt just looks tacky. It's like a fully buttoned dress shirt with no tie.

An untucked shirt makes it appear that you were in the public restroom and were interrupted.
Someone offered a service that you wanted to avoid so quickly the you were not able to tuck in your shirt before you fled that public stall.

I guess that there are also some fat boys don't want anyone to know how poorly their clothes fit them. They are also victims of public restrooms.
People who can wear fitted clothes - generally, they have them fit.

 

[epa]

Originally Posted by odoreater

I guess, but on the other hand he was saying that "untucked shirts [are] part of this 'dressed down is cool' trend. Destroyed and dirty jeans, raggy clothes..." I mean, is having your shirt untucked really part of wearing the whole "destroyed jeans" thing? I wear my shirt untucked sometimes, but I don't wear destroyed or dirty-washed jeans.

I just don't see wearing an untucked shirt as being part of the whole trend that he was talking about (i.e., destroyed jeans), or a part of the trend of wearing the curled up and scraped to death shoes.

I don't think you can say on the one hand that wearing an untucked shirt is part of that trend, and on the other hand say that antiquing shoes is somehow not analogous.

He also said that what bothers him about the whole trend is that it makes it seem like those people don't care about their clothes because their dads paid for them. On the other hand, most people would not pay $200 - $1000 for a pair of shoes and then take acetone and rubbing alcohol to them. Me and you have done it, but does that mean that our dads bought the shoes for us and we don't care (and keep in mind that some people have posted pictures here of shoes that they have tried to antique, but that ended up looking like ****)? I don't think so. It's just that we happen to be into the hobby (or whatever you want to call it) of "hooking up" our shoes, and some people are in the hobby of doing the same to their jeans. I don't really think it says anything more about the people.
I did not want to say that wearing the shirt untucked is "as bad" (IMO) as wearing purposedly destroyed clothes. Actually, I occasionally wear short-sleeved shirts untucked, as well as T-shirts and polos. This kind of more "casual" clothes kind of call for untucked, at least sometimes. However, what disturbs me is when I feel that people try to look kind of "raggy" on purpose. Actually, this seems to be a western thing, because in poor countries, I have the feeling that people often try to look as decent as they can afford to (at least, it used to be that way). Now, I do not think that it is bad when someone does not choose to tuck his shirt in. However, on the other hand, I cannot agree that all of us who prefer to tuck the shirts in are "dorky".
By the way, on New Years eve I was at dinner at my brother-in-law's place, and this young guy came to pick up the beatiful daughter of my brother-in-law. She was really nicely dressed up. He arrived with the shirt untucked. A nice guy, sure, but he would have looked more mature with the shirt tucked in, IMO.
Just my opinion, though.

 

[epa]

Just a final (?) remark:
Last Friday I went to a milonga (that is, where you dance tango) and there was this guy who I guess was between 40 and 50. He was dressed in black and grey tones, and wore the shirt (that had a bit of colour) untucked. What struck me about it was that it didn't make him look sloppy. I guess that he had so much style that it didn't matter that the shirt was untucked; the untucked shirt looked just casual, not slovenly. And he didn't look like someone trying to look younger than he is.
So I guess that the important thing maybe is not whether you wear the shirt untucked or not, but, if your wear it untucked, how you wear it untucked.

 

[masqueofhastur]

Originally Posted by Charley

An untucked shirt makes it appear that you were in the public restroom and were interrupted.
Someone offered a service that you wanted to avoid so quickly the you were not able to tuck in your shirt before you fled that public stall.

I guess that there are also some fat boys don't want anyone to know how poorly their clothes fit them. They are also victims of public restrooms.
People who can wear fitted clothes - generally, they have them fit.

No, if you're wearing a shirt tucked in, and are not working at a store, it means you are wearing your pants around your waist, which also means your pants are riding up your ass crack. If they're not, that's still the first reaction people will get. If you're wearing just pants and a tucked in shirt, you look like a dork. If you're going to wear your shirt tucked in, with no blazer, sports-coat, suit jacket or vest, you look like a dork. Tucked in shirts belong with a tie, a vest and a coat. If you're missing that you might as well be walking around barefoot.

 

[Todd]

Originally Posted by epa

Yes, I guess you never know if you are looking at a dork or at a non-dork who just happens to look dorky because he is sufficiently undorky so as not to bother about being taken for a dork by this bunch of dorks trying to look undorky with their untucked shirts...

I think it depends greatly on the style of shirt. Those with a shorter more hemmed bottom are obvious made to allow one to leave them untucked. On the other hand, longer bottom unhemmed shirts are obviously so for a reason - to be tucked and remain tucked.