I joined in the forum only couple month but I spent a lot of time to do my research. I thought I already knew everything a starter need to know about good value. Until I started to learn about quality shoes brands, I found out that many brands were unpopular on this forum and the information about them are limited. For example, not much information about Sutor Mantallassi. Most importantly, I read in the classic menswear section, Yanko shoes are on par with Carmina while cheaper! Are there other good value shoes brands that are not commonly mentioned on this forum but represent decent quality price ratio?