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Unpacking my new Bontonis!! Pics inside!!!!

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by justinkapur, Sep 1, 2011.

  1. Gdot

    Gdot Well-Known Member

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    Stunning!

    :slayer:
     
  2. onix

    onix Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that your assessment is based on the English-shoe perspective. Fiddle waist, channeled soles, unique nail patterns, goodyear welt, etc., are all originated from English shoes. Judging an apple from a perspective of an orange is not the right approach. By the way, fiddle waist is strictly styling, it has nothing at all to do with quality. Channeled soles and nail patterns maybe indicators of amount of attention to details, but we can also argue, hand antiquing is also an indicator that English shoes lack. Goodyear vs rapid blake, oh please, not again...

    The bottom line is, your perspective is skewed.
     
  3. Gdot

    Gdot Well-Known Member

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    Simply because a Goodyear welted shoe in general is more expensive to produce than a Blake welted shoe in general has only some bearing on the total value of a shoe when completed.

    The method of welting is only one factor of many which affects the value of the final product. To simply insist that a shoe should rightfully be more 'valuable' simply because of the welting method is just not rational.
     
  4. entrero

    entrero Well-Known Member

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    If I can get more resoling out of a particular welting method and therefore reducing my total cost of ownership, then my choice would be pretty obvious.

    This is actually the selling point of GY welting.
     
  5. onix

    onix Well-Known Member

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    FWIW, Blake/Rapid and Blake are very different. Resoling Blake/Rapid is not an issue.
     
  6. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Well-Known Member

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    Blake Rapid is my preferred construction for RTW shoes. All stitches hold the shoe together, and the midsole makes for a sturdy shoe. Pretty much the next best thing to handwelting if you ask me. Some people might argue that Blake construction is still better construction because it is stitched and not glued like with Goodyear welting.
     
  7. malat

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    Easily 40 wears on these Bontoni (in the foreground; click to enlarge):

    [​IMG]

    They are, without a doubt, my best shoes.
     
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  8. Gdot

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    Regarding resoling a Blake/Rapid shoe here's a quote from Ron Rider:

    “Indeed, you could argue that Blake/Rapid shoes are easier to resole repeatedly,” says Ron Rider, North America market manager for Martegani shoes. “A cheap cobbler is more likely to mess up the welt when he is resoling, preventing them from being resoled again. With Blake/Rapid you have a mid-sole performing the role of a welt, so it’s more substantial.”

    And even Blake can be resoled - it does require that the shoe repair shop have a Blake machine - which are not as common as Goodyear. But in any large city you should be able to find someone to resole a Blake welted shoe. You can also send them back to the factory for resoling.
     
  9. fritzl

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    +1
     
  10. fritzl

    fritzl Well-Known Member

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    mine is not and the sole gives a cheapish impression. sorry.
     
  11. onix

    onix Well-Known Member

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    We know
     
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  12. malat

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    I must say, in my opinion, my Bontoni are my best wearing, most comfortable and most quality shoe I own (besting even my EG and G&G)..
     
  13. fritzl

    fritzl Well-Known Member

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    wow, surprised.

    i know almost nothing about your preferences.
     
  14. fritzl

    fritzl Well-Known Member

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    allright, let's talk after one thousand...
     
  15. onix

    onix Well-Known Member

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    yeah, your narrow perspective on shoes is very well known.
     
  16. fritzl

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    oops, you must confound me. nvm.
     
  17. isshinryu101

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    Of course a closed channel sole would have been nicer. Also, the paint/ finish job on the soles could have been nicer as well. However, that is not a reflection on construction or on leather quality. At the $600 price point (Alden Shell, C&J handgrade, etc) you don't get fabulous sole treatments. For $1200, EG will give you one. At around the $900- $1000 range (which Bontoni recently was, but has raised prices as have all makers), I'd prefer the xtra $$$ be spent on the uppers. Bontoni's are even nicer in person than in pics.
     
  18. whnay.

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    I hate them - looks like something Kermit shat out after a late night bender.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. isshinryu101

    isshinryu101 Well-Known Member

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    Classy comment for sure
     
  20. justinkapur

    justinkapur Well-Known Member

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    im sorry you feel that way. i still love my shoes and i appreciate any comments positive or negative.

    i will post my pictures after about 15 wears when I get home.
     

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