bdavro23
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Bought the fabric before 2017. Yes, camelhair.
Ok, that makes sense.
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Bought the fabric before 2017. Yes, camelhair.
Bought the fabric before 2017. Yes, camelhair.
Read somewhere (may have been in one of the 274 LL threads I've been binging on since getting access earlier today) that good camelhair is more or less nonexistent today.
Is that the case?
And if so, why?
Similar to issues with cashmere (love your articles on cashmere and sustainability, by the way)?
C’mon lol. You’re proving my point. There is no functional value paying that much for fabric.An obscene amount as compared to what?
there is nothing else available or comparable on the market.
I am not one to spend money frivolously.
I see value in the luxury of this garment.
perhaps a $30,000 vicuña overcoat might be a bit of a stretch.
We’re indulging in the utterly superfluous.
I‘m almost certain that you are correct. $1000/yard is what I remember paying.Don't think that's true. I considered subscribing to the original Everest run and also vaguely remember it was about $1,000 per meter. I think I paid about $400 per meter for the jacketing version.
I believe Vox told me that he paid about $1,000 per meter for Harrisons camelhair overcoating. I bought the same fabric from my tailor but don't remember what I paid.
Check with the armoury / liveranoJust now got admitted to the LL forum, so two questions for the assembled throng related to the new Everest run:
- How long, generally speaking, do these cloths take to arrive? (I ask because I sort of have a window over the next ~6 months to get to New York for Liverano trunk shows – but beyond that it might be a little harder for a while.
- What's the minimum length I'd need for a full-length, DB overcoat? 4m, right? Just wanting to make sure before I maybe pull the trigger.
Just now got admitted to the LL forum, so two questions for the assembled throng related to the new Everest run:
- How long, generally speaking, do these cloths take to arrive? (I ask because I sort of have a window over the next ~6 months to get to New York for Liverano trunk shows – but beyond that it might be a little harder for a while.
- What's the minimum length I'd need for a full-length, DB overcoat? 4m, right? Just wanting to make sure before I maybe pull the trigger.
It has been a while since I subscribed to a run. But I vaguely remember things getting delivered in a few months, maybe three or four. Best to check with Michael. From what I remember, the challenge is getting enough people to subscribe to a run so they meet the mill's minimum. A mill has to run a certain amount of fabric before they'll set up the machines. If not enough people are interested in a London Lounge cloth, a subscription can sit around for a while before it hits the minimum.
If this is your first meeting with Liverano, you can meet the tailor, get measured, and then have the cloth sent to the workshop later. You don't have to time the cloth delivery with your meeting with the tailor. The only real schedule is that the cloth has to arrive so the tailor can make the basted coat in time for their next trip. Of course, if the cloth doesn't arrive in time for them to make a basted coat, all this means is that you skip that fitting and the process gets pushed back to the next trunk show.
Regarding length, it's always best to check with your tailor. I've always done: 4 meters for a suit or overcoat, 2.5 meters for a sport coat, and 1.5 meters for a pair of trousers. However, I've known people to squeeze a suit out of 3 meters and a sport coat out of 2 meters. Once had someone buy 1.75 meters from me and insisted their tailor could get a sport coat out of this.
Normally, I would say just buy more fabric. Have had people come back to me to order fabric when their tailor messed up, and I have none left. It would be a bummer if you didn't order enough, but spent a considerable amount on 3.5m, hoping to squeeze enough for an overcoat, and then be left without a sleeve. However, at $1000/ meter, shaving 0.5m might be worthwhile. But you take a risk.
I bought 2.5m of the LL double-faced cashmere jacketing. One of my tailors worked with the same cloth for another client and said that it shrunk dramatically under steam. This double-faced cashmere jacketing was woven by Lovat, the same makers of the Everest cashmere overcoating. Might want to check with people to see how their fabric reacted to steam. Vox had his Everest coat tailored through Steed.
Have been sitting on the double-faced cashmere jacketing for a while a haven't had it made up. Am just reporting what I've heard from Steed about that jacketing. If the Everest also shrinks under steam, you may want to err on the side of caution and buy more than the absolute bare minimum.
In terms of amount to order, the same basic logic applies – risking not having quite enough in return for saving the incremental cost of that .5m just doesn't seem worth it to me. So 4m it is.
It has been a while since I subscribed to a run. But I vaguely remember things getting delivered in a few months, maybe three or four. Best to check with Michael. From what I remember, the challenge is getting enough people to subscribe to a run so they meet the mill's minimum. A mill has to run a certain amount of fabric before they'll set up the machines. If not enough people are interested in a London Lounge cloth, a subscription can sit around for a while before it hits the minimum.
If this is your first meeting with Liverano, you can meet the tailor, get measured, and then have the cloth sent to the workshop later. You don't have to time the cloth delivery with your meeting with the tailor. The only real schedule is that the cloth has to arrive so the tailor can make the basted coat in time for their next trip. Of course, if the cloth doesn't arrive in time for them to make a basted coat, all this means is that you skip that fitting and the process gets pushed back to the next trunk show.
Regarding length, it's always best to check with your tailor. I've always done: 4 meters for a suit or overcoat, 2.5 meters for a sport coat, and 1.5 meters for a pair of trousers. However, I've known people to squeeze a suit out of 3 meters and a sport coat out of 2 meters. Once had someone buy 1.75 meters from me and insisted their tailor could get a sport coat out of this.
Normally, I would say just buy more fabric. Have had people come back to me to order fabric when their tailor messed up, and I have none left. It would be a bummer if you didn't order enough, but spent a considerable amount on 3.5m, hoping to squeeze enough for an overcoat, and then be left without a sleeve. However, at $1000/ meter, shaving 0.5m might be worthwhile. But you take a risk.
I bought 2.5m of the LL double-faced cashmere jacketing. One of my tailors worked with the same cloth for another client and said that it shrunk dramatically under steam. This double-faced cashmere jacketing was woven by Lovat, the same makers of the Everest cashmere overcoating. Might want to check with people to see how their fabric reacted to steam. Vox had his Everest coat tailored through Steed.
Have been sitting on the double-faced cashmere jacketing for a while a haven't had it made up. Am just reporting what I've heard from Steed about that jacketing. If the Everest also shrinks under steam, you may want to err on the side of caution and buy more than the absolute bare minimum.