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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Right. But then it confirms where it is made. In any case, selvedge offers more information and sometimes verifiable information about the cloth, whereas no selvedge leaves it up to trust and guesses. Which is why some people prefer to buy selvedged lengths, or pay a premium for it.
     
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  2. Fishball

    Fishball Senior member

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    Are you calling me? :bounce2:

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    Actually, I still have 11m of this special run on hand :)
     
  3. kolecho

    kolecho Senior member

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    Handsome stuff. If you can convince Fishball to sell some to you, get some!
     
  4. chobochobo

    chobochobo Senior member Moderator

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    I did have some of the Fishball flannel but the tailor had some problems with cutting it (too small) and I'm stuck.
     
  5. Fishball

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    oops, what happened? Do you need any help?
    You got 4m, so I am pretty sure you bought enough.
     
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  6. chobochobo

    chobochobo Senior member Moderator

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    Tailor said they'd refund me, which I'm assuming includes the cloth. I'm waiting to see what happens. I think it'll be okay in the end. Luckily it's summer so I wouldn't get to wear it for ages anyway.
     
  7. Mr. Six

    Mr. Six Senior member

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    What's the weight of that flannel? It's very nice!
     
  8. Fishball

    Fishball Senior member

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    13/14 oz woollen
     
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  9. Coxsackie

    Coxsackie Senior member

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    I just paid for 3.7m of this.

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    A new run of the London Lounge "Agnelli" tweed by Lovat Mill.

    Now I have to work out what to do with it. Tempted to recreate the original Agnelli look with its out-there peak lapels -

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    ...but maybe I should be shooting more for my "own style"...whatever that is.

    Thoughts?
     
  10. S K M

    S K M Senior member

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    No doubt a good investment, congrats! I also think it would look great in a completely classic 2B NL but a DB would also be a winner. You didn't happen to order the new mohair suiting as well? I'm very curious to see what it's like, and also is the price is the same as other LL productions...
     
  11. baromatic

    baromatic Well-Known Member

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    I would love to get a start on the agnelli.
     
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  12. lordsuperb

    lordsuperb Senior member

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    :embar: I guess I must be the only one but I don't like this fabric.
     
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  13. jrd617

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  14. ericgereghty

    ericgereghty Senior member

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    So I'm clear, is it fair to say that a bolt of cloth sans selvedge is of no worse quality than a bolt of cloth with selvedge?

    Note: of course this assumes the piece of cloth without selvedge is no different (same mill, fabric, etc) than one with the edge.
     
  15. Andy57

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    I have the same "problem". Even though it's not terribly tweed-like, I think a DB would be a bot much. I think I'm going to go with something very similar to Mr Agnelli, but with a 2-button or 3/2 configuration, and maybe slanted pockets. But I've got probably the better part of a year to think about it. But for my first dip in the cloth club pool, I'm very impressed.
     
  16. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Well that is the problem- sans selvedge means you can't tell quality. (at least unless you're an actual tailor/have experience in that area).

    But yes, if you know the fabric is the same source, then having the actual selvedge doesn't matter.
     
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  17. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have enough for 2 suits-- just in case there's a disaster or I lose 30 pounds in 10 years. I think version 1.0 will be 3pc, notch lapels. Not sure about 2b or roll 2.5. It will essentially be a city suit for cold-weather days when I don't need to be unbelievably formal. Having my own office in Boston makes both all three of those things possible.

    Version 2.0 might well be DB-- we'll see how it behaves and what successes other folks have.

    The other problem is which tailor to use-- I just had fittings today at two completely different shops that are firing on all cylinders.
     
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    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    They're a merchant.
     
  20. dan'l

    dan'l Senior member

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    ^ Thanks! Drapers is often recommended here and I had the impression that they were a mill. Since they do not produce their own cloth, I wonder why members make blanket statements about their cloth. For example, Caccioppoli carries a wide range of cloth (i.e. VBC, Loro Piana, etc.) plus their special runs, and certainly the feel and quality is not the same across their entire collection.
     

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