Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I think it's just marketing. If you're selling a city suit, you say "wool." If you're trying to get interest in a crunchy organic tweed jacket or fisherman's sweater that smells like old cheese, you say "sheep."
     
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  2. bourbonbasted

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    Fair enough. Guess it's back to square one.
     


  3. AdamWill

    AdamWill Senior member

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    Note 'fresco' with a small 'f', not 'Fresco' with a capital one. The term can be used as a generic. It's not really that odd to see OTR suits in summer weights/weaves, even from the cheapo brands.
     


  4. TRINI

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    The A. Moon ppl are amazing.

    I sent an email late last week asking how I could get swatches of a couple of their Shetland herringbones and got an email response saying that they'd pass my request onto their stock support team.

    I didn't hear back and was gonna follow up today.

    I get back to my desk at work and there's a UPS envelope waiting for me with a full swatch book and price list.

    :slayer:
     


  5. mactire

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    Technically linen is a plain weave fabric woven from a baste fibre which includes flax, hemp and ramie [nettle can also be woven]. However the term is so loosely used esp. in English speaking countries that it is often used incorrectly. The more correct labels will say 100% flax or 100% hemp etc., the issue you had with the cloth you saw may be down to something totally different such as a whether the fibres were spun together, known as an 'intimate blend' or wool warp, linen weft etc.
     


  6. archetypal_yuppie

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    Sweater's tend to be knit, not woven, amirite?
     


  7. patrickBOOTH

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  8. archetypal_yuppie

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    Does anyone do this? Seems like it would make for a directionally unstable cloth, if you get what I mean by that. Alternating materials for the warps and wefts might achieve a similar effect, though I don't know if this is more difficult.

    I have three wool/linen blends, they all appear to be "intimate."
     


  9. archetypal_yuppie

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    So then it follows that sweaters don't have open weaves, but open knits... Or some crazy third possibility with all kinds of crazy ins outs and what-have-yous.
     


  10. patrickBOOTH

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    Yeah, well the point I was making is there are larger "holes" in the fabric.
     


  11. archetypal_yuppie

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    WORDS MATTER!!!! :fu:

    jk (but not really jk i guess)

    But understood.
     


  12. bourbonbasted

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    It's likely impossible to know where the cloth comes from. I was hoping that there was a book out there that touted "wool/flax" that I could have a look at. But if it comes down to taster's choice on how you label what's in the fabric, then it's likely just a usual wool/linen blend.

    So I guess I'll ask if anyone knows of wool/linen blend puppytooth in an excru and grey. Something like this:

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    They have a nice website. I'd never seen their stuff before.
     


  14. borbor

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    No way in a month of Sunday will a pay for an OTR PRL suit made with Minnis Fresco. Not if you know the wholesale price of those things.
     


  15. gdl203

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    I'd be very surprised if that was actually Minnis Fresco fabric, given the cost of that cloth and the typical pricing structure of PRL (I.e they still make good money at 70% off)
     


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