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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. Cifodeluca

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    In June I visited W.Bill's Sackville Street basement and had I wanted to buy anything they would have sold it to me.
     
  2. venividivicibj

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    They do. Not sure if you need an appointment if you want to see the whole warehouse/all the fabric though.
     
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    I almost got some, but even for 15 oz, it is bizarrely open-weaved. I went with hopsack instead.
     
  4. Cantabrigian

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    It's incredibly hard wearing.

    For as much as I like or at least like the idea of heavier cloths, I'm always warm and even if I weren't every building everywhere is always warmer than it really should be.

    The open weave means I can leave the jacket on and not be sweating right away, while still wearing something with a nice texture that looks especially at home in the colder seasons.
     
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    Very nice! Kind of regretting I didn't get on board for a trousers length - would look fantastic for summer odd trousers with a light blue linen shirt...
     
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    I agree with that, over heated buildings are why I looked to it, but I felt even at 15oz it was very transparent. I find myself wearing 10oz fresco a lot in the early winter with an overcoat.
     
  7. patrickBOOTH

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    Never understood the boners for brown suiting.
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Does anybody have any recommendations for a mid grey cloth that looks like Minnis Fresco 0512, but is heavy (~16oz)? P&B universal has a nice lighter grey, but it doesn't have the light/dark variegated look to it. Lesser 16 book doesn't have anything all that light and I am lost.
     
  9. Cantabrigian

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    Surprised you find the 15oz too transparent but the 10oz okay.

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  10. tchoy

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    I saw a new bunch from Lovat Mill yesterday it may have something you are looking for. It's a fresco at around 380grams it's a really nice cloth, its not coarse and scratchy like the Minnis.
     
  11. patrickBOOTH

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    Well, I wear the 10oz in the summer. I was considering the 15oz for the winter. The intention was to be able to wear a heavy suit without an overcoat. It would still be too breezy.
     
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    Too light. Also, I prefer scratchy to smooth actually.
     
  13. Cantabrigian

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    Ah - makes sense.

    That is the downside to 15oz fresco trousers in the dead of winter. Really cold if there's a breeze.
     
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    But Fresco holds up very well in wet conditions...it seems to have a natural water-wicking property...

    I wish i'd gotten in on the brown fresco...#regret
     
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    See, that's not my experience at all. My experience shows that it is quick to lose a crease when wet. Twills seem to be the best in that regard, however they are also more susceptible to shine.
     
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    I think the LL mistral might fit the bill. But it is quite and open weave and I suspect the wind will cut right through it. I have a length of the mid to dark gray mistral. Not made it up yet so I don't know for sure.
     
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    What's with all of these light wimpy fabrics?
     
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    Maybe I should get a tweed suit?
     
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    I do like the scratchy tweeds...i'd like to add a green suit to my repertoire. maybe donegal...or maybe cotton...
     
  20. venividivicibj

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    does lovat have a website online where we can see their books?
     

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