Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    Getting back to sharkskin for a second

    Trying to get a feel for sharkskin cloth costs. (And cloth in general)

    The Minnis stuff costs about $360 for a suit on the retail site. (Incidentally, how does Minnis sharkskin stack up?)

    Not sure how much these cloths would run for a suit:



    -Smiths Botany (11 oz)
    -Smiths Steadfast (14 oz)

    -Lessers Lumbs Golden Bale
    -Taylor and Lodge Lumbs Golden Bale

    -Harrisons Edinburgh Premier Cru (11 oz)
    -Harrisons Edinburgh Oyster (13 oz)

    -Minnis (13 oz)

    -Holland and Sherry Intercity ​
     
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  2. poorsod

    poorsod Senior member

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    I got Smith's Botany (which is 13 oz not 11 oz) for around $130-150 per yard from Isles. I don't suggest buying retail because I doubt you save money. I only did it because NSM doesn't carry Smith's. The Botany has a fantastically wide selection of sharkskin and I suggest you at least peruse the book.
     
  3. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    Thanks!

    Excited to check out all of these books.
     
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    poorsod Senior member

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    NSM has access to Lesser, Harrison's, Minnis and H&S. If there are certain books you want, I think it is best to ask them to bring it.
     
  5. lordsuperb

    lordsuperb Senior member

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    So I'm trying to do an all bespoke wardrobe in terms of suits. How do you plan out your next purchase in terms of seasonal wear and how often are you ordering? How versatile is a blue/navy suit?
     
  6. jrd617

    jrd617 Senior member

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    This was a good thread for seasonality matters: http://www.styleforum.net/t/310941/10-suit-wardrobe/100_50

    I'm not sure I follow the navy suit question. That's the 1st or 2nd most versatile color you could have...
     
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  8. mimo

    mimo Pernicious Enabler

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    Yes, I use them a lot, as they're the only English mill that sells to the clothiers where I live. As it's a hot climate, I've only experience with the lighter weights, but I've used several of their cloths and been very happy so far.
     
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    add911_11 Senior member

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    I have used their Arthur harrison flannels and semi milled wool worsted. Both are excellent choice and I don't find them any worse than similar famous names.
     
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    CrimsonWave Well-Known Member

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    I have a suit made out of their semi-milled range and it drapes well and like the other posters above have said, the cloth appears as durable as stuff from other makers I have tried such as Harrisons of Edinburgh, Lesser and Smiths.
     
  11. Griffyndor

    Griffyndor Senior member

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    Does anyone have pictures or know the number of the H. Lesser Lumb's Golden Bale 13 oz cloth in navy?
    thanks
     
  12. Despos

    Despos Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    31168 is the dark navy, 31166 is a shade or two lighter. The lighter looks like sharkskin, darker more like a plain worsted
     
  13. Griffyndor

    Griffyndor Senior member

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    thanks so much, Chris. Very much appreciated.
    A
     
  14. Liquidus

    Liquidus Senior member

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    I ordered 2 yards of Steadfast 1561 (Navy Hopsack) directly from Smiths for 146 pounds. Shipping to USA was 12 pounds.

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    I was asking my tailor about houndstooth flannel suitings, and it seems they're pretty thin on the ground. The StyFo-grail Minnis 0656 is apparently discontinued with no lengths left, and they could locate only 1 from Harrisons, 2 from Fox, and 1 from H&S. I asked for mid- to dark-grey. Any other ideas?
     

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