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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yep - check your email.


    The lightness is part of the point though - darker colors similar to 22 or 23 are not as tough to find. That said, if there were enough support to do a run of something like the 19 and something like the 22 as well, I'd be open to that, and would probably get both myself. 22 would be nice as a suit too I think.
     
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  2. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Senior member

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    I have 22 as a pair of trousers. I like them, but agree with Unbel that the color works better as a suit.

    Think of 19 as khaki chinos. That's how I think of this color anyway. Here's an example of a pair of flannels I bought from Howard Yount. I've found them to be really, really useful. Second to only mid-gray, and better than light gray, IMO.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. Grammaton Cleric

    Grammaton Cleric Senior member

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    Btw, are the pictured stock fabrics?
     
  4. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    19.19 and 11 are the closest to the project idea (the DiCaprio flannel trousers)

    19.19 has a colder vibe (yellow/maize tinge) whereas 11 has a warmer vibe (brown/peach tinge).

    All others, while nice, don't really jibe with the original idea. I think 23 is a better color than 22 personally. 22 is a bit of a flat taupe color - something too 1970's for me.
     
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  5. dieworkwear

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    Whoops. Meant mine are 23, not 22. I agree 22 isn't that appealing. 23 is nice, but admittedly not that versatile. At least FME.
     
  6. poorsod

    poorsod Senior member

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    I'm wearing flannel pants today from VBC that looks much like 19.19. Consider looking at the VBC flannel book before going through the trouble of commissioning the cloth.
     
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  7. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I know that cloth, if it's the same one I'm thinking of (i.e., the one used for the HY in Derek's pic above). It's lighter in weight than what I want, and I think the version I saw was worsted flannel, although not totally sure about that.
     
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  8. poorsod

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    Yeah that sounds like the one. A bit yellow gray worsted flannel.
     
  9. unbelragazzo

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    I'm going for a heavier woolen instead.
     
  10. poorsod

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    BTW I also have the 13 oz woolen Fox cream flannel that Will made a couple years ago and I think plenty warm. 15 oz might be a bit too much for a woolen.
     
  11. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Looking back I wish I had gotten in on that too. Fox is now out of their stocked version and unclear when they will make again.
     
  12. Knox

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    I'm all in for the Breanish PoW, providing it's the classic maroonish-brown/cream with navy border check.
     
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  13. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Anyone still up for the tan/sand colored linen?
     
  14. jrd617

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    Got my Moon herringbone tweed in choc brown today. Shetland wool. What a bargain at 2.5 meters for $75 shipped USA!

    Highly recommended.

    They have lots of awesome jacketing.

    http://www.moons.co.uk/apparel/jacketing/
     
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  15. Gianni Cerutti

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    Great fabrics and very nice colors
     
  16. archetypal_yuppie

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    Any thoughts on Loro Piana "Zelander Dream"?
     
  17. DavidLane

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    I would lean towards 22 first then on to 11. I would rather error on the side of them being tan rather than gray. 19 looks rather gray to me, could be my monitor too.

    Here are couple of pairs of Incotex bottom is a fawn flannel and top is a mid gray worsted. If 19 falls in this camp it would be great. Hard to tell from the image.
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  18. venividivicibj

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    Anyone know what a good weight is for a linen jacket?

    I've heard it should be on the heavier side so it 'rumples' and doesn't 'wrinkle/crease'
     
  19. archibaldleach

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    Linen can be tricky, because if you get something too heavy it will start to wear a bit warm and defeat the purpose of having a linen jacket in the first place. It will depend on your heat tolerance and how you want to wear it, but I wouldn't go above 11 ounces personally. No matter what, it's linen so whether you have rumples or wrinkles, it's going to be a more relaxed look and not perfectly clean, so you're basically deciding what form you want its imperfections to take.
     
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    Yes, one pretty much needs to embrace the wrinkles and rumbles with linen.
     

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