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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. Mr. Pink

    Mr. Pink Senior member

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    Harrison's remade the 13 oz. and the 8-9 oz. Lessers books a year or so ago, so I don't think there's a shortage of those. Harrison's has said that it's considering remaking the 16 oz book.

    I have suits in both the P&B Fine Classics and Minnis Classic, and I think they're both very good. They both drape well, don't wrinkle much, hold a crease, and seem hard wearing. They both have nice sharkskins which are more defined and less smooth than the Lessers 13 oz. I like their look better. See pic below. Lessers on left, P&B on right. On this site, a Harrison's representative talks about the differences between the Lessers and P&B books. http://harrisonsofedinburgh.proboards.com/thread/6

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  2. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    A response from the madras people:

    We have only one bleeding madras fabric in stock, at this time, and this is as per the picture attached. It has been dyed exclusively using vegetable and fruit dyes.

    The patchworks are non-bleeding.

    Was this order to generate a new run of fabric not currently in stock?
     
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  3. mktitsworth

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    Unfortunately, this does not say which one it is.
     
  4. chuckb

    chuckb Senior member

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    Count me in for two, maybe three shirt-lengths of the madras.
     
  5. johanm

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    The Smith Botany book also has some fantastic sharkskins that have the resolution/contrast of the Minnis and Harrisons versions with the feel of the Lesser 13 oz. They also have several shades from light to dark grey.
     
  6. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Sorry, I couldn't get the link to transfer over. It's a fairly boring cream/tan pattern, not one of the ones listed on their Bleeding Madras page.

    Now they're saying for a true custom order of what is not in stock, minimum order is 100m. Price would be close to $10/m.
     
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  7. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Apparently the new Harrison's made Lesser fabrics aren't like they once were. I have no idea if it is just a bunch of bologna though.
     
  8. Mr. Pink

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    I recall a lengthy debate on this at LL.

    I wish they would remake the 9.5/10 but it doesn't look like that's happening.
     
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  9. archetypal_yuppie

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    "Aren't like they once were" spawns CJs in SF like nothing else.
     
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  10. kolecho

    kolecho Senior member

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    Heads up on some vintage/deadstock Edwin Woodhouse and Lessers Tropical worsted I am selling. Please see my sig, thanks.
     
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  11. yasu10s

    yasu10s Well-Known Member

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    Thinking about making a 3 season/fall&winter suit. Does anyone know how LL mistrals can compare to the likes of Lesser 16oz, steadfast and HE box 16oz?
     
  12. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    They are heavier but will breathe much better, as they are open hopsacks.
     
  13. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Question - looking for a new staple navy SC, should I go for sharkskin (non shiny), Birdseye, etc or just go for plain worsted?

    (I've seen lots of swatches on this thread get shot down for being too much like suiting, so I wanted to go a little away from that and have texture, but still be versatile and a staple Navy SC)
     
  14. jrd617

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    Picked up these trouser wool twills from kolecho
     
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  15. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    If you want plain, don't go for the sharkskin or birdseye-- that will look like a plain suit jacket. A navy serge or hopsack, on the other hand, is very standard blazer material.

    You might also think about some of the herringbones, which may be a little too relaxed to be suiting but will be pretty discreet. Something from the Glorious 12th or Worsted Alsport books, for example.
     
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  16. mktitsworth

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    Top one is boss. Both are nice, but Top is boss.
     
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  17. venividivicibj

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    Well it's not that I want plain per se, but I want something that matches easily, and is a staple.
     
  18. jrd617

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    thanks, mang!
     
  19. Concordia

    Concordia Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Well avoid the suitings, except for the country fake-tweed suitings. Again, herringbone is a nice place to start.
     
  20. jrd617

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    Hoarding all the good cavalry twill. (These will probably go "unfunded" for awhile --- looking at thousands in CMT pants fees :D Fuck me)

    Add this to the pile

    Zegna from edmorel (just the fabric)

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