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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. lachyzee

    lachyzee Senior member

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    Speaking of Huddersfield, I'm thinking of ordering something from them in H7214. Unfortunately they won't send me any swatches. Anyone happen to have this swatch IRL, or have seen it IRL? Just want to know if the colour on the site is accurate:

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  2. lachyzee

    lachyzee Senior member

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    Second question: what kind of lining options do you guys go with in relation to Minnis Fresco?

    I am tossing up whether to get something in the 250/280gms range, or the 280/310gms range.

    I have read that, obviously, the lighter one wears cooler, but has some drape problems. That, though, was contradicted by Manton & ors a few pages ago.

    I have also heard that they can be somewhat see-through - if I go for a half-lining, would a lighter colour be better?

    In terms of pants - lined or unlined?

    Interestingly, it seems that the 280/310gms range actually has a looser weave than the tighter, finer 250/280gm range, and is actually more see-through than the lighter weight cloth:

    (280/310gm is on the right)

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  3. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    I'd never get fresco pants lined - really defeats the purpose IMO
     
  4. msulinski

    msulinski Senior member

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    The pair I have is only lined in the front, so that still allows for air circulation in the rear. You can always have the lining removed very easily.
     
  5. Grammaton Cleric

    Grammaton Cleric Senior member

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    Same here. I have frankly never found trouser linings to be that warm.
     
  6. NewYorkIslander

    NewYorkIslander Senior member

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    Honestly, bespoke has becoming a little too expensive for me...I have one more overcoat I'd like in the next few years and maybe a couple of sportcoats down the road. I've also been sending a lot of my discretionary funds to the business and a new hobby, whiskey...so I can get a nice bottle or two for what I paid for the overcoating if I can recoup the funds...:)
     
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  7. Grammaton Cleric

    Grammaton Cleric Senior member

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    It's a nice cloth, but sadly, 3 yards is not enough for a full-length OC.
     
  8. badsha

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    Wait there are two different weights for each Fresco color, i.e. 0520 will be 250/280gms range OR 280/310gms?
     
  9. poorsod

    poorsod Senior member

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    Not all but some. You need to peruse the book.
     
  10. lachyzee

    lachyzee Senior member

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    No.

    There are usually similar colours in each weight range, but they aren't exactly the same.
     
  11. Fishball

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    I don't know why you feel the 'Eden in Paris' vol.1 "stiff", for me they are much softer than the Minnis flannel.
     
  12. add911_11

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    There are softer brands outside, they are just relatively stiff. I agree with you that Minnis flannel is stiffer than LL offerings.

    btw, for proper stiff flannels, I much prefer 2080 by A. Harrison
     
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  13. Fishball

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    oh, yes, VBC flannel is much softer if you like.
    My Scabal flannel is also softer.
    But I like the LL EIP hands anyway.
     
  14. add911_11

    add911_11 Senior member

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    I thought you don't wear heavy cloth that much in Hong Kong? I believe there are reissues of Eden in Paris, hence the character of the fabrics differ from batches.

    BTW, do you know where I can source English thick (best 12-14oz) ivory Flannel? I do not need a big brand as long as it is good stuff.
     
  15. Vodking

    Vodking Well-Known Member

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    My London Lounge Piuma (dark navy) arrived today. Gorgeous colour that will look fantastic under both sunlight and artificial light - exactly what I was after.

    I can't easily attest to its wrinkle-resisting capabilities yet but I have every faith that Alden has produced the world's best travel cloth after years in the making.

    Despite its matte finish I think it has too tight a weave to be used as a BlazerSuit as originally planned. Here in the UK, patch pockets would have raised a few eyebrows so perhaps it's done me a favour!

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  16. Grammaton Cleric

    Grammaton Cleric Senior member

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    Looks great. I have a RAF PoW on the way!
     
  17. poorsod

    poorsod Senior member

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    I'm waiting for mine to ship with the Mistral. *sigh*
     
  18. Slickman

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    Same, but mistral is a nice fabric
     
  19. badsha

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    Sweet. Been wanting too see what this looks like. Suppose to be similar to the Brisa POW.
     
  20. Maccimus

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    Last fitting for my John Molloy donegal jacket. I will post some real photos after it is finished.
     
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