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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. Grammaton Cleric

    Grammaton Cleric Senior member

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    Agreed. Heavier tweeds are everywhere. If we could get this in the 10-12oz. range, I would possibly be in for a much larger order.
     
  2. Slickman

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    12oz tweed? 14oz should be the bare minimum
     
  3. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Have you seen the normal, 10 oz Breanish?
     
  4. Slickman

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    No I have not, I'm going by what I have in my closet from the usual suspects and a few LL fabrics which are all heavy, sometimes too heavy. When I hear 12oz, I think of a worsted suit, guess I need to experience breanish to understand breanish
     
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  5. Grammaton Cleric

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    Breanish is really meant to be lighter. I remember an email exchange I had with one of the owners, where he mentioned that they specifically opted for lighter wools like angora and lambswool to keep the weight down and help differentiate their cloth from all the other heavy Hebridean tweeds.
     
  6. forex

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    It seems like we should go with their standard weight. I have two types of Breanish, their standard weight (10-11 oz) and a heavier version (14 oz or so) and prefer their standard weight. As dopey said, at standard weight, the fabric is spongy and is different from other tweeds.
     
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  7. Slickman

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    I see, I'll let the breanish/cloth experts hash out the details on this one. But I'm def in for 5 min, the scale of the POW is what makes this fabric work
     
  8. poorsod

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    You should make it up and get 2 pairs of pants. Then you can wear it 10 times!

     
  9. forex

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    It is best to let Breanish weave the cloth at their standard weight. For some reason, I thought that the first run of this cloth was 16 oz but clearly I was wrong. Those who want heavier version can always opt out, I guess. It looks like we have plenty of interest, we are somewhere 70 meters now.
     
  10. badsha

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    Forex how many meters do you need to place the order?
     
  11. mactire

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    Heavier tweeds are hard to find in interesting patterns and weaves, you can have all the black and salt and pepper you want in any weight but the checks, stripes, bones etc. are all in light weights like 360g-400g.

    In terms of weaving a lighter fabric its much trickier with a woolen-spun yarn as goes into a flannel or tweed as there is less strength in the yarn. The cloth must be woven much slower, there are more breaks and so on, its harder to finish and won't wear as well.

    At that weight its not really tweed anymore and will disappoint, 10oz for instance is what tiecloth was woven in, in the past.
     
  12. mactire

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    Anyone know what mill the LL linen came from?
     
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  13. forex

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    I'd like to think that we already have the minimum required, I can count at least 75 meters and that is not including everything. If you want to jump on this, just let me know.
     
  14. Grammaton Cleric

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    I'm well aware of the properties and advantages of traditional mid and heavyweight tweeds. I have several and love them all.

    But, again, Breanish is its own animal, and just as it doesn't make sense to have a 8oz. woolen flannel, it doesn't make sense to have a 16oz. Breanish.
     
  15. forex

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    I would agree with this. Are you interested in this make up? It would definitely be in the 10-12 oz range, most likely their standard weight.
     
  16. tchoy

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    One of my LL Tweed is now funded, second fitting and so far so good.

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  17. whnay.

    whnay. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    That looks real nice choy - who is making that for you?
     
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  18. Grammaton Cleric

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    Yes, thanks - 4m for me!
     
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    Thanks Bill, it's one of my tailors that I use in Sydney.
     

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