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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    99% of Scabal looks it belongs a Dubai supermall and then the other 1% is really great. The old Shetland book is fantastic.
     


  2. Slewfoot

    Slewfoot Distinguished Member

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    Just sourced this recently from the old Shetland book. Very nice and the color is pretty accurate.

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  3. tchoy

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    Very nice! I have two jackets from this book and it's great stuff.
     


  4. etkl

    etkl Senior Member

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    Are you referring to real Irish donegal?. I have some worsted donegal from Scabal that I made into pants that I like a lot. I've been meaning to make a matching jacket but haven't gotten around to it.
     


  5. Grammaton Cleric

    Grammaton Cleric Distinguished Member

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    Why is the Scabal shetland book "old"? Is it discontinued?
     


  6. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Distinguished Member

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    Honestly I'm not sure.

    The two examples that I've seen and really liked we're made up as suits so maybe worsted.

    What I liked was that the cloth was interesting - rich, variegated colors. But without odd flecks of lime green or magenta. I realise that sort of thing is traditional but the historical allusion isn't sufficient to overcome my natural aversion.
     
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  7. Lovelace

    Lovelace Senior Member

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    Try Harrison's or John G. Hardy. Machine woven. Two weights available as I recall.

    W.Bill's Donegal's are hand woven, or most are, the cloth is rough and seems to loosely woven to be suitable for trousers. NIce for a jacket though, I have several.
     


  8. etkl

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    Honestly I'm not sure.
    The two examples that I've seen and really liked we're made up as suits so maybe worsted.
    What I liked was that the cloth was interesting - rich, variegated colors. But without odd flecks of lime green or magenta. I realise that sort of thing is traditional but the historical illusion isn't sufficient to overcome my natural aversion.[/quot

    H & S also has something like that or at least it has in the past.
     


  9. Slewfoot

    Slewfoot Distinguished Member

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    Unfortunately yes.
     


  10. Slickman

    Slickman Distinguished Member

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    If you're looking for donegals I would recommend molloy and sons, they have a great collection that has a bit of heft
     


  11. Grammaton Cleric

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    The Molloy collection is superb, but I can't see them working as suitings.

    Thanks, Slew.
     


  12. Mazderati

    Mazderati Well-Known Member

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    Treading into unknown waters and have a few basic questions:

    1. How is the hierarchy of purchasing cloth based? Is cloth typically available for purchase from a tailor, cloth store, distributor, manufacturer, or all of the above?
    2. Are there online cloth stores or a secret web of underground fabric dealers?

    I've no clue how much cloth it takes to make a suit or what kind of price range is available for a quality fabric.
     
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  13. poorsod

    poorsod Distinguished Member

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    Seems you have quite a bit of reading to do, both on here and at LL.

    Reading this entire thread is a start.
    Also,
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/171293/why-lesser-has-some-hegemony-on-savile-row/0_30

    Regarding how much cloth you need, ask your tailor.
     


  14. Mazderati

    Mazderati Well-Known Member

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    I'll check it out. Thanks.
     


  15. NewYorkIslander

    NewYorkIslander Affiliate Vendor

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    I have seen the WBill, its ok, but thought there may be some better cuts available.

    Thanks for all the responses fellas.
     


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