Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

[Slewfoot]

Yay for gray donegal!

 

[Cantabrigian]



Apart from black and white herringbone, I'd say.

Yea - second to the blue blazer, that is the classic winter SC.

 

[RogerC]

Also, I have a length of mid grey/dark grey PoW Johnston cashmere with a blue overcheck that is as yet unfunded.

 

[Cantabrigian]



In the case of brokencycle's fabric, my objection is that the colors seem spring-like, but it's a fall/winter fabric. Could be the photo, but that's my first reaction.

That's definitely part of it.

The other thing is that it's too sedate. Not enough interest in the grey (unlike a Donegal) and too soft (unlike a heavy tweed). The pattern is way too much for a suit butnot quite enough for a SC.

I think Matt had posted (a long while ago) a cashmere SC that looked like TV static - I recommend something like that for cashmere.

 

[NOBD]

Gray is not the problem of that fabric.

 

[MalfordOfLondon]



Why doesn't a gray sportcoat with navy pants work like a navy sportcoat with gray pants work?

It's sometimes difficult to pair up a tie with a grey sportscoat and get some kind of congruence with your trousers. The contrast is usually too jarring.

Looking back through some of my old posts in WAYWN I can see a few failed attempts. Difficult to explain but trousers and tie usually end up forming a "colour block". Does that make sense?

I've found that dark grey Donegal tends to be a little easier to match up.

 

[brokencycle]

I understand that all won't like grey coats, and I accept that. I also appreciate the comments. So it seems, excluding those who categorically reject grey jackets, seem to not like it because of the light purple checks being a spring color but the cashmere being a winter/fall fabric?

 

[sugarbutch]

That's my objection, yes. I think someone also thought it was too bold for a suiting and not bold enough for an odd jacket. I don't think I agree with that.

 

[Cantabrigian]



I understand that all won't like grey coats, and I accept that. I also appreciate the comments. So it seems, excluding those who categorically reject grey jackets, seem to not like it because of the light purple checks being a spring color but the cashmere being a winter/fall fabric?

There isn't enough contrast. Lite grey with white and pale lilac all gets washed out.

To put it another way, what will you pair it with? Dark grey or navy pants will overpower the jacket and make it look even more like a solid (and I don't think anyone could love a solid grey SC).

So you're left with white / cream (or lilac if you're into matching like that...). That will look pretty good but it's distinctive enough to be an 'oh, you're wearing that again' sort of outfit.

I think you'd get ore mileage out of a grey flannel suit with a white windowpane. Or even an SC like this that permanent style highlighted--

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v5M7NtPKnZA/UFHh91w5uYI/AAAAAAAADns/Q0-apoxOlIU/s1600/ps-f12_p7.jpg

From
http://www.permanentstyle.co.uk/2012/09/paul-stuarts-wondrous-autumn-colours.html

But I'm boring to a fault and even if I weren't, my opinion won't and shouldn't diminish your enjoyment of that SC-to-be.

 

[Pliny]

Tell it to Bianca...
http://media-cache-lt0.pinterest.com/upload/215609900879893783_Xze8h4f7_b.jpg

OMG- you'd think she'd afford a prosthetic for that leg

 

[Dib]



POW - flannel and worsted:

Do you have details of the fabric in the first picture, on right? It looks fantastic.

 

[NewYorkIslander]

Looking for some thoughts on this:

I had originally planned to do my winter overcoat s/b, peak lapel, fly front and hacking pockets with a ticket. I just got a call, and my tailor said that the fabric was so thick, that a fly front would not look clean on it. So, I was thinking something like this instead:

It will be cut as a casual coat, to be worn without a sport jacket underneath...

 

[Slewfoot]

Looks fun! I wonder if 4 buttons might be better for that design. I also may make the bottom half of the lapel a bit wider, more like a pea coat. Speaking of pea coat, why not just go double breasted to make it uber warm?

 

[tlfactor]

NYR, I remember seeing you in a Phineas Cole overcoat in a post awhile back, which looked DOPE! However I'm sure it was very pricey...did you ever pull the trigger on it?

 

[Cantabrigian]



Looking for some thoughts on this:
I had originally planned to do my winter overcoat s/b, peak lapel, fly front and hacking pockets with a ticket. I just got a call, and my tailor said that the fabric was so thick, that a fly front would not look clean on it. So, I was thinking something like this instead:

It will be cut as a casual coat, to be worn without a sport jacket underneath...

I like the look and prefer keeping my hands warm with straight pockets with flaps rather than slanted pockets.

Agree w/ Slewfoot that moar / smaller. Uttons might look better.

What sort of cloth? A thick melton?