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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Senior member

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    That's a shame. Is it just about doing a pattern on fresco, or is it about doing a custom run on patterns in general? I'd still be interested in organizing custom runs on here with Minnis, if other members are interested.
     
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  2. Slickman

    Slickman Senior member

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    I did not inquire about anything other than fresco, so I can't confirm other fabrics, but I have a feeling they went to Lovat to mill the cloth, and they probably have some sort of contract with LL that only allows Lovat to do custom runs of certain patterns if it is a large commercial order, i.e 840+ meter minimum order minnis informed me of.

    However solids have the normal 65m minimum so if people would like a more refined blue fresco or something else, it can be done
     
  3. poorsod

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    sugarbutch Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I tried to register for LL, but never heard from them. Can someone PM me Alden's e-mail address since that seems to be the way to get through?
     
  5. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    That's too bad.

    I'm with you in that the existing books have solids pretty well covered. The nailhead would be much more interesting.
     
  6. RogerC

    RogerC Senior member

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    Thank you in any case for the effort. In terms of solids, with the exception of perhaps olive or so, the existing Fresco book is sufficiently well stocked, I think. It's a pity they're being difficult about patterns, a houndstooth migh have been nice as well.
     
  7. RogerC

    RogerC Senior member

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    Thank you in any case for the effort. In terms of solids, with the exception of perhaps olive or so, the existing Fresco book is sufficiently well stocked, I think. It's a pity they're being difficult about patterns, a houndstooth migh have been nice as well.
     
  8. quar

    quar Senior member

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    The Fresco II Book lacks any bright Blue fabrics.

    You either get the 520 AFB, or very Dark or Midnight Navys, such as 0516.
     
  9. Lovelace

    Lovelace Senior member

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    I believe Antich weave most of the cloth for the HFW group.

    The problem with weaving a pattern is that you have to reset and reprogram the loom which is time consuming and has a cost that has to be recovered either by unit cost or quantity or both,

    There used to be a POW patterned Fresco which they no longer sell. Probably didn't sell well. So your answer maybe there.

    I would be surprised if Lovat had signed such a restrictive contract with London Lounge.
     
  10. Slewfoot

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    One thing you guys may want to consider is re-commissioning some of the old Rangoon cloth. I believe they would be able to re-create it and possibly with some customized tweaks. It would have to be at the same high quality level of the previous ones woven on the same looms they previously used, of course. Otherwise it's not the same thing. I recall the Rangoon book had some nailhead and POW type patterns.
     
  11. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    ^great idea. I would be interested if a Rangoon project got going.
     
  12. poorsod

    poorsod Senior member

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    How is Rangoon different from Lesser tropical?
     
  13. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Senior member

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    Drier and more crease resistant than Lesser Tropical. Great stuff.
     
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  14. forex

    forex Senior member

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    So why was Rangoon discontinued if t was so great?
     
  15. Slewfoot

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    I imagine it just didn't sell well to the general public. Just because crazy guys like us enjoy it doesn't mean random Joe's did.
     
  16. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Senior member

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    I was told that sales were decent but not amazing. Fresco was always the top seller among their spring / summer fabrics, so they took the opportunity to lower inventory, beliveing that Rangoon lovers would just migrate to Fresco.
     
  17. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Dumbasses.

    They are totally different cloths.
     
  18. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Senior member

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    True, but I get the sense that some cloth merchants think in terms of weight rather than texture. I was complaining to a UK mill recently on how they had stopped producing their outstanding 10oz. hopsacks. They seemed bewildered that I was complaining - "But we still have several excellent collections in that summer weight."

    On that note, I would appreciate member recommendations on a light-to-mid weight navy hopsack.
     
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  19. Concordia

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    I can't believe Minnis would do it, but between SF and various LL members, there will certainly be a market.
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Does anybody have any photos of a rangoon? I have never heard of it.
     

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