• Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is Larimars Luxury Menswear Larimars, based in Ontario, Canada, specializes in handmade and semi-handmade shirts made in their family owned factory, with over 1000 fabrics from which to choose!

    Please check them out and take advantage of their introductory offer for Styleforum. The discount code is in thread!

  • STYLE. COMMUNITY. GREAT CLOTHING.

    Bored of counting likes on social networks? At Styleforum, you’ll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis.

    Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today!

Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

bdavro23

Distinguished Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2014
Messages
3,628
Reaction score
4,331
Could anyone provide any informations about the fabrics in the attached photos or any similar alternatives ?
This has similar colors/ tone, but in a more muted pattern. I think the Houndstooth one you posted especially, is a difficult pattern to wear.

 

MrFingers

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 7, 2021
Messages
770
Reaction score
1,881
Hello all, considering commissioning some trousers in dugdale fine new worsted line. Specially their mid gray, light gray and cream colors. Does anyone happen to have them as well as minnis fresco? Mostly going with NFW to save some coin but if it’s inferior in quality, feel or ability to maintain its crease then I’ll go for fresco. also, are most lighter fabrics (light gray and cream) see through? Wondering if lining your the knee is enough to avoid this issue.
Thanks!
 

classicalthunde

Distinguished Member
Joined
Apr 11, 2016
Messages
2,109
Reaction score
1,676
Hello all, considering commissioning some trousers in dugdale fine new worsted line. Specially their mid gray, light gray and cream colors. Does anyone happen to have them as well as minnis fresco? Mostly going with NFW to save some coin but if it’s inferior in quality, feel or ability to maintain its crease then I’ll go for fresco. also, are most lighter fabrics (light gray and cream) see through? Wondering if lining your the knee is enough to avoid this issue.
Thanks!
To the best of my knowledge NFW is a robust plain weave, and not an open high-twist like fresco. I believe they are one of the fabrics recommended (particularly the greys) in The Armoury's "Building a Trouser Wardrobe" post.
 

JHWilliams

Senior Member
Joined
Dec 6, 2020
Messages
362
Reaction score
228
Hello all, considering commissioning some trousers in dugdale fine new worsted line. Specially their mid gray, light gray and cream colors. Does anyone happen to have them as well as minnis fresco? Mostly going with NFW to save some coin but if it’s inferior in quality, feel or ability to maintain its crease then I’ll go for fresco. also, are most lighter fabrics (light gray and cream) see through? Wondering if lining your the knee is enough to avoid this issue.
Thanks!
I have a suit in NFW. It is nothing like Fresco. The weave is a bit more closed and the hand is very different. I selected it as a summer suit and was disappointed that it doesn’t breath very well.
 

MrFingers

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 7, 2021
Messages
770
Reaction score
1,881
I have a suit in NFW. It is nothing like Fresco. The weave is a bit more closed and the hand is very different. I selected it as a summer suit and was disappointed that it doesn’t breath very well.
That’s very disappointing to hear. I guess I’ll just go with vbc 4 ply or fresco 3 ply then
 

ericgereghty

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2013
Messages
6,999
Reaction score
10,691
That’s very disappointing to hear. I guess I’ll just go with vbc 4 ply or fresco 3 ply then
Unsure if the savings would be similar, but no interest in Tropicalair? That's a closer equivalent to Fresco
 

Concordia

Distinguished Member
Dubiously Honored
Joined
Oct 6, 2004
Messages
7,468
Reaction score
1,524
Finmeresco 3-ply is also very good.
 

emptym

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Sep 22, 2007
Messages
9,590
Reaction score
7,029
Thanks, @Bespoke DJP and @Sreezy36! I already ordered the Yorkshire herringbone, but I like both of those, particularly the one Sreezy36 posted. If that had a blue and red instead of orange and red overcheck, it'd be pretty much perfect.

@calypso, I love that book, particularly the herringbones. I have a couple jackets from it. They're about 10 years old, have gotten a lot of wear, and look new. I think they were 14 oz. I've posted a few pics over the years, such as these
IMG_2582.jpg

IMG_5738.JPG
2126764.jpeg
IMG_0449.jpeg

@MrFingers, I don't have any NFW, but I believe Ashish of Luxire speaks highly of it and he has a lot of experience w/ Minnis as well. I have the light gray Minnis high twist, 8/9 oz pants, unlined, and they aren't transparent at all.
 

MrFingers

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 7, 2021
Messages
770
Reaction score
1,881
Unsure if the savings would be similar, but no interest in Tropicalair? That's a closer equivalent to Fresco
Could you link me to it? After talking to luxire I don’t think I’ll be saving any real money so I think I’m just going to sprint for whatever is “best”. In this case it’s between 4 ply vbc and 3 ply fresco. They’re both heavy weight. However, I don’t think either has a light gray shade so I may have to get a regular 300g fresco for that
 

Jmr928

Distinguished Member
Supporting Member
Joined
Aug 30, 2019
Messages
3,281
Reaction score
26,162
Could you link me to it? After talking to luxire I don’t think I’ll be saving any real money so I think I’m just going to sprint for whatever is “best”. In this case it’s between 4 ply vbc and 3 ply fresco. They’re both heavy weight. However, I don’t think either has a light gray shade so I may have to get a regular 300g fresco for that
I’ve got the NFW. Second or third at this point whatever everyone else said. It’s fine but I much prefer my Drapers/VBC 4 ply. Makes great trousers.

Drapers 4 ply definitely comes in a light gray. Whether Luxire has it I’m not sure but the code is 18050.
 
Last edited:

MrFingers

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 7, 2021
Messages
770
Reaction score
1,881
I’ve got the NFW. Second or third at this point whatever everyone else said. Of the high twists it feels least like a high twist and is a much tighter weave. It’s fine but I much prefer my Drapers/VBC 4 ply. Makes great trousers.

Drapers 4 ply definitely comes in a light gray. Whether Luxire has it I’m not sure but the code is 18050.
Thanks! Yeah when I spoke with luxire they only carry whatever’s on their website (mid and charcoal) because allegedly vbc won’t sell them the cloth for single cuts. But good deal, I think I’ll go with vbc for the mid gray.
 

ericgereghty

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jul 6, 2013
Messages
6,999
Reaction score
10,691
Could you link me to it? After talking to luxire I don’t think I’ll be saving any real money so I think I’m just going to sprint for whatever is “best”. In this case it’s between 4 ply vbc and 3 ply fresco. They’re both heavy weight. However, I don’t think either has a light gray shade so I may have to get a regular 300g fresco for that

Oh, are you getting the heaviest weight Fresco (the 435 or so grams)? These are lighter than that.

Out of curiosity, what is Luxire charging for the 4-ply and Fresco?
 

Jmr928

Distinguished Member
Supporting Member
Joined
Aug 30, 2019
Messages
3,281
Reaction score
26,162

Oh, are you getting the heaviest weight Fresco (the 435 or so grams)? These are lighter than that.

Out of curiosity, what is Luxire charging for the 4-ply and Fresco?
I wasn’t a huge fan of the tropicalair comparatively but at the discount price Luxire runs on it where it’s about half price I see some appeal. I probably wouldn’t order it again on purpose though. Much smoother hand. Doesn’t hold a crease as well. Tighter weave.

Personally I find 4 ply to be the sweet spot of weight, ability to hold a crease and feel (crisp but not scratchy).

Luxire has limited colors for like $300 or something. Pretty good deal.

Tropicalair:
9BC90839-909D-46FC-BE22-925D1EEAAC5A.jpeg

4 Ply:
2B08F7C2-92E3-4179-8286-AABF104104AF.jpeg
 

MrFingers

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 7, 2021
Messages
770
Reaction score
1,881

Oh, are you getting the heaviest weight Fresco (the 435 or so grams)? These are lighter than that.

Out of curiosity, what is Luxire charging for the 4-ply and Fresco?
Yes. Mostly cause it’s getting colder down here but I’ll eventually have the lighter weight stuff too.
Luxire charges about 300/ea for the vbc and fresco so pretty good deal!
 

Featured Sponsor

Corduroy…who wore it best?

  • @khughes44

    Votes: 9 12.7%
  • @duke santos

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • @DavidLane

    Votes: 19 26.8%
  • @Old Red

    Votes: 3 4.2%
  • @Chadclass

    Votes: 15 21.1%
  • @An Acute Style (first post)

    Votes: 5 7.0%
  • @Digital Native

    Votes: 3 4.2%
  • @DapperPhilly

    Votes: 5 7.0%
  • @YankeeWithNoBrim

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • @Eli Curt

    Votes: 2 2.8%
  • @psb

    Votes: 10 14.1%

Forum statistics

Threads
486,043
Messages
10,330,489
Members
217,205
Latest member
xabovem
Top