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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

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I know Marzoni is not the best of fabrics but I have used it in the past and my garments seem as durable with it as with anybody else. I am funding a new project and they have a pattern that I like. Does anybody have any strong opinions about their wool or wool blends?
 

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Does anyone have experience with Harrison’s P & B Universal bunch with the 20/21 ounce twill cloth?
 

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I know Marzoni is not the best of fabrics but I have used it in the past and my garments seem as durable with it as with anybody else. I am funding a new project and they have a pattern that I like. Does anybody have any strong opinions about their wool or wool blends?
I have a wool-silk-linen blend from them. I think it's fine.
 

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Mas liabilities….

370g dugdale black barathea for a classic single breasted peak lapel DJ.

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Ivory Dugdale new fine worsted Panama/plain weave for a double breasted tropical climate/warm weather dinner jacket. Still undecided on the lapels. If I go with a shawl collar, it will be used solely a dinner jacket. If I decide on peak lapels, it will serve as Dj and suit.
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Mas liabilities….

370g dugdale black barathea for a classic single breasted peak lapel DJ.

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Ivory Dugdale new fine worsted Panama/plain weave for a double breasted tropical climate/warm weather dinner jacket. Still undecided on the lapels. If I go with a shawl collar, it will be used solely a dinner jacket. If I decide on peak lapels, it will serve as Dj and suit.
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can’t go wrong with Dugdale Bros!!
 

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370g dugdale black barathea for a classic single breasted peak lapel DJ.

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Ivory Dugdale new fine worsted Panama/plain weave for a double breasted tropical climate/warm weather dinner jacket. Still undecided on the lapels. If I go with a shawl collar, it will be used solely a dinner jacket. If I decide on peak lapels, it will serve as Dj and suit.
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Welcome to the dj train!
 

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Welcome to the dj train!
Tbh, you and @dieworkwear gave me the idea of the versatile multi-use cream/ivory jacket. However, I’m just not sure if the new fine worsted is the right cloth for it. It might just work only as a Dj.. but that project is way down on the bespoke project que. I just couldn’t pass up on the deal that I received for that cloth.
 

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Thank you. Your opinion is much appreciated. "Fine" is what I need from Marzoni at their price point.
FWIW, I don't mean "fine" as in "mediocre." I would call Fox Bros fabric "fine." I mean fine as it "seems fine."

Can't remember how much I paid, but I think it was something like $200 or $250/ meter. I'm ok with the fabric for how much I paid.
 

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Your message reminds me why I am all for price transparency. Here in Shanghai, Marzoni is at the bottom of the ladder, with some tailors charging less for a suit made with their fabric than for, say, VBC. If I want a bespoke suit, I will get a better price for any Marzoni fabric than for the typical Fresco by Hardy Minnis (which retails for 59GBP, according to their website). Hence, a meter will be much cheaper than U$200 (most likely, it will be around U$40-50). In the past, tailors have overcharged me by factors of 3 or 4 for certain fabrics just because I could not find pricing information for them online.

Price opacity can be quite harmful (I know I won't even touch many collections just because I won't have a clue about the price range). Mind you, I don't being overcharged, to some extent, because I am not as knowledgeable about the market as some other folk. But having one tailor telling me that Marzoni is an expensive exclusive fabric that I am lucky to get for a similar price than (and I exaggerate) Scabal, while another telling me that they don't bother with the brand, as they spend more on marketing than quality control? And having to ask about it in internet forums? It takes a lot of joy of commissioning a garment.

FWIW, I don't mean "fine" as in "mediocre." I would call Fox Bros fabric "fine." I mean fine as it "seems fine."

Can't remember how much I paid, but I think it was something like $200 or $250/ meter. I'm ok with the fabric for how much I paid.
 

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