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Unfunded Liabilities: a/k/a The Cloth Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Feb 10, 2008.

  1. NewYorkIslander

    NewYorkIslander Affiliate Vendor

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    Not Flannel, but I have Lesser for CB available for sale in my sig...
     


  2. F. Corbera

    F. Corbera Senior member

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    Dudes: it's Carlo Barbera for Lesser Bros., not the other way around. Lesser specified and sold; Barbera milled.
     


  3. T4phage

    T4phage Senior member

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    there were two versions
    made by cb for lessers
    a 13oz and a 14 or 15oz
    this one is the heavier
    and is now
    in napoli
     


  4. emptym

    emptym Moderator Moderator

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    Ah. Thanks.
    Thanks too. Hope it turns out well.
     


  5. RogerC

    RogerC Senior member

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    For all you cloth buffs out there: the Minnis/Hardy website has been thoroughly overhauled, and now includes a couple of new lines. High points include the Fresco II, which looks really interesting, and a line of new flannels in the Hunt and Winterbotham lines with a couple of wonderfully non-conservative designs. On the other hand, it looks as though HFW is paying ever more attention to Super numbers and Italian design, which I'm not necessarily a big fan of.
     


  6. coolpapa

    coolpapa Senior member

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    Thanks, some of these look great. Look forward to seeing the books in person.
     


  7. Master Shake

    Master Shake Senior member

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    For what it's worth, I received a couple of H&W swatches that included one of the Minnis Fresco II's and one from the H&W Italian line. The Fresco II (it was the solid light gray) was very nice, maybe a little smoother than the original Fresco line, but same body. The Italian one, though, was very thin and flimsy, very disappointing.
     


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    Looks like the price for lambswool book is doubled.
     


  9. yywwyy

    yywwyy Senior member

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    I searched most threads with Gladson fabrics mentioned and didn't find much at all. This company seems more know as a distributor than for their own fabric.
    Can you share your experience with any of their own fabrics? Thanks in advance!
     


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    Never used their mohairs but the worsted flannels are great, and very keenly priced. And it's just "Harrisons Burley".
     


  11. terrorsquad

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    Some Carlo Barbera for H.Lesser 12/13 oz which I absolutely have no use for. Too heavy for use in South East Asia.
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    (Image borrowed from NYRanger's post)

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    For this, the 26070 and 26072 is available.
     
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  12. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Senior member

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    Lot of people seem to think this is now a B&S thread [​IMG]
     


  13. marcodalondra

    marcodalondra Senior member

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    Now sitting in the wardarobe until the winter when I will probably commision a 2 pcs suit, H lesser Tropical in 8-9 Ozs, I believe soon to be discontinued (not in the current book but still on their website):

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  14. TheDarkKnight

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    A quick question on cloth buying - do you find it saves money to buy cloth yourself and then take it to a tailor, or does your tailor generally buy at lower prices?

    I would like to get a couple of things made in Autumn and at the best price possible.
     


  15. RogerC

    RogerC Senior member

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    Depends on the cloth and on the tailor. Generally, it will be less expensive if the tailor orders the cloth. They don't pay VAT, and usually have a running account with the cloth merchant, meaning that they enjoy discounts as they're larger customers. In other words, for most easily available/standard suiting and jacketing cloth, it doesn't make sense to go CMT.

    However, if you are looking for something specific from a merchant your tailor doesn't carry, or you have a length of vintage/special fabric (eBay's often good for this), CMT is your only option. Also, crowd-sourced initiatives like the London Lounge Cloth Club and our own special brown Fresco require CMT.

    Last thing: don't be fixated on the best price possible. You also want quality, but perhaps most importantly, if you're trickling into the bespoke fold, you'll need to develop a relationship of mutual respect with your tailor. If he doesn't feel respect for his craft, it'll show in the workmanship.
     


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