Trini, you may want to consider a shirt collar that is a bit lower in height, a bit more spread and 1/2 or so longer points. What do you guys think of the shade of blue. It's for pants, I thought it was a great shade for the spring/summer for brown linen jackets, grey jackets and the brighter spring stuff. It's got a luscious hand. Kind of dad-jeans denim, no? I'd prefer something with more grey in it.