Unattractiveness and the discussion of style

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by thealbatross, Jun 23, 2006.

  1. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Same here. I've got two sisters, so I've had this discussion on many occasions. Sometimes I can point out a guy that they find attractive and but more often I'm way off, usually to the tone of 'ughhhh'...

    I might add that the two of them have completely different tastes in guys. Trying to figure out what 'women' find attractive is an excercise in futility. How can you lump together the personal preferences of several billion individuals?
     
  2. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Affiliate Vendor Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    I can tell when a dude is ugly. I don't hang out with ugly people; they drag you down. I've never believed in being accompanied by less attractive people so that you appear better by contrast. I think most people will just think that you're both ugly. I believe this is true for both men and women. Some women allegedly use this tactic but it definitely backfires with me. I would be less interested in a girl if I knew I had to be in the presence of her ugly friend.

    Also, ugly people are usually not very cool. I'm sure there are exceptions but generally there is a strong correlation between beauty and coolness.
     
  3. Homme

    Homme Senior member

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    " If you compare yourself with others,
    you may become vain or bitter,
    for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself. "

    From the Disderata.
     
  4. cheapmutha

    cheapmutha Senior member

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    Style Forum needs a subforum where only the ridiculously good looking can post in it. [​IMG]
    hmm... i may stop by, but im too good looking for you cats. i dont want to hurt the feelings of the really really really good looking by being really really really really really good looking.
     
  5. Nantucket Red

    Nantucket Red "Mr. Fashionista"

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    hmm... i may stop by, but im too good looking for you cats. i dont want to hurt the feelings of the really really really good looking by being really really really really really good looking.

    How considerate of you.[​IMG]
     
  6. cheapmutha

    cheapmutha Senior member

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    i do what i can.
     
  7. thealbatross

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    I don’t buy into the idea that men don’t formulate opinions on the attractiveness of their own gender. In the school yard as a kid I remember if someone was called "ugly" a common response at the time might be by calling the provoker "gay", but I never used this defense as I found it offensive in its own right. On the subject of women I have heard female friends say that a guy is attractive but not their type; attractiveness and attraction are two distinct issues, more so to women in my experience.

    Part if not all of my original point was about compensating for low self-esteem or a prevailing feeling of unattractiveness, which in my case was formulated in my mind early in life, with the pursuit of style. This isn’t to say that unattractive people are inherently more stylish, just that they are trying harder. Many of the things discussed on the forums don’t even necessarily have to due with style but rather the acquisition of things that perhaps makes us feel better about ourselves, such as a bespoke garment that may not only flatter our body types, but also deliver a confidence boost by virtue of being a luxury item.

    Mr. Daniels, I might be posting anonymously as you are also doing but anonymity on these forums doesn’t necessarily make a person more comfortable to discuss their own insecurities; a point that I think you have reinforced with your awkward outburst. If the subject matter has made you uncomfortable I apologize, but I have tried to express my point honestly. Kent, I’m sorry us “uglies” are holding you down; with your statement am I wrong to assume you are happy with your own physical appearance? If this is the case I wish you well.

    Thank you for all the responses so far.
     
  8. Spencer Young

    Spencer Young Senior member

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    Many of the things discussed on the forums don't even necessarily have to due with style but rather the acquisition of things that perhaps makes us feel better about ourselves, such as a bespoke garment that may not only flatter our body types, but also deliver a confidence boost by virtue of being a luxury item.

    Another perspective is that people here have a fairly clear (relative to others) vision of their style. I'm sure we all have a mental picture or abstract idea about what our style. Along those lines, I think we purchase these seemingly frivolous things because it completes a piece of our picture we have in our heads. Indirectly we feel better about ourselves because we've harmonized our ideal and current self.

    Very interesting discussion, I'm greatly enjoying it. Fun to see how people react and what they think.
     
  9. Earthmover

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    Can you really judge how attractive other dudes are? I can't. I can guess, and sometimes get it right at the extremes, but otherwise have no clue whatsoever.
    Only men I think are good-looking tend to be ones with a more feminine "handsome" face. Usually when I'm with girls, it's about 50-50 on whether they'll agree with my judgment, presumably dependent on their tastes. So yeah, unless they look like a hot chick, I guess I don't really have an idea either. One thing I should add is that compared to a regular internet forum, SF probably has a higher average age among its users. Because standards of beauty place a significant premium on being young (it at least creates a better base with which to work with), I think this can skew the idea of people in this forum being thought of as fugly mofos by people such as our giant wingspanned friend here.
     
  10. kitonbrioni

    kitonbrioni Senior member

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    The only style requirement of a gentleman is to be at the arm of an attractive lady.
     
  11. javyn

    javyn Senior member

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    I am secure enough in my heterosexuality to recognize when a man is attractive.

    I've been ugly my whole life until I first put on a suit. I still am kind of shocked and don't know how to handle the attention I am now getting from women.
     
  12. tiger02

    tiger02 Militarist

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    I am secure enough in my heterosexuality to recognize when a man is attractive.

    I've been ugly my whole life until I first put on a suit. I still am kind of shocked and don't know how to handle the attention I am now getting from women.

    Security has nothing to do with it. I just don't know what to look for.
     
  13. gorgekko

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    A man can have a very ugly face, and not lose one single point in life for it, with the right attitude (brains, taste, charm, confidence, etc.).
    Well said. Humphrey Bogart hardly had what could be described as a beautiful face but what man wouldn't want to be him?
    I don't hang out with ugly people; they drag you down.
    So who hangs out with you?
     
  14. Arnold_Horseshack

    Arnold_Horseshack Well-Known Member

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    ive been ugly all my life....my aunts and sisters say im handsom but i know their lieing.....i also been fat....but i nearly lost 20 pounds so far and play soccer saturday at the park....sometimes i watch movies and tv and pretend im someone else that i see....im interested in being more dressy but i want to work on looking better too i never cared how i wear stuff cause i never been happy with the way i look....i hope to change that here...lol...
     
  15. Arnold_Horseshack

    Arnold_Horseshack Well-Known Member

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    Chill out, he's not trolling.

    I however am in with the "ridiculously good-looking" crowd with Jason, so it doesn't matter.



    that your picture??? i mean im the first person to say i aint good lookin but i dont think you nothing to brag about either....
     

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