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TyCooN's Official Boxing Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by TyCooN, Nov 8, 2009.

  1. junior varsity

    junior varsity Senior member

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    :facepalm:

    you should go jerk off with hotel lotion and stfu about boxing
    its obviously NOT your strong point
     
  2. gladhands

    gladhands Senior member

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    Did you watch those first two fights, or just read their records?
     
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  3. Lord-Barrington

    Lord-Barrington Senior member

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    I had to re-read his post a couple times to make sure I didn't miss anything, but it turns out he just is that stupid.
     
  4. Lord-Barrington

    Lord-Barrington Senior member

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    Hahaha! Now we have a revisionist historian on our hands. Great.
     
  5. gladhands

    gladhands Senior member

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    Revisionist historian? Those decisions have ALWAYS been controversial.


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  6. junior varsity

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    i watched the fight at the pub and just came back.
    i thought it was another too close to call fights between the two, no doubt.
    and i thought to myself, manny would win because he is manny pacquiao.
    there is obvious favoring going on, and i accept that.
    just like basketball accepts the jordan rules when michael jordan was playing.
    champions got to where they are from excellence and they deserve to be on the longer end of the stick when its too close to call
     
  7. junior varsity

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    history doesnt rewrite itself man, just like the nazis lost stalingrad and eventually the war.
    yeah, marquez vs pacquiao has been as close to nazis vs commies @ stalingrad, but the end result cannot change itself.
    and i am glad that the better guy won tonight along with the past two fights
     
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  8. Lord-Barrington

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    So now because Marquez is wearing a t-shirt that says he won two fights he didn't, you're going to believe him?

    I can just imagine this guy running up to the person standing next to the guy with a "I'm with Stupid" t-shirt and wanting to know why he is so dumb.
     
  9. junior varsity

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    he is the kind of people who believes in creationism and people riding on dinosaurs because the priest said so :laugh:
     
  10. gladhands

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    Simple question: Did you watch the first two Pacquiao/Marquez fights? If not, your opinion on this matter carries ZERO weight. Both fights were highly controversial, and a great many people, (myself included) believe that Marquez was robbed.

    The fact that you had no idea what I was talking about when I said that Marquez beat him three times, implies that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
     
  11. Lord-Barrington

    Lord-Barrington Senior member

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    a) Yes I did watch the fights.

    b) Two losses and a draw don't equal three wins, no matter what parallel fantasy world you live in.


    You're the definition of the retarded internet poster.
     
  12. junior varsity

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    i dont know if the fights were controversial, but thats another story.
    i watched all of manny pacquiao's fights since ledwahba (spelling?)
    the first fight between marquez and pac SHOULD have been stopped when he dropped marquez 3x in the 2nd round.
    i think there is that mercy rule where you get dominated so bad that you got knocked to the ground 3x the ref should call it off
    but they fought on and marquez got the draw because he got knocked down 3x..
    boxing is scored by interpretation and if i was a judge, i'd look down heavily on you if you got your ass whooped ...

    second fight was closer, but marquez got knocked to the canvassed and that was the nail on the coffin

    how about just DONT GET KNOCKED DOWN?
    if marquez didnt get knocked down, then he'd have won both fights.
     
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    This is a reasonable response, and I understand how the knockdowns reflect poorly on Marquez, but fights are scored by the round, not as a whole, and Marquez won enough rounds to counteract the knockdowns.
     
  14. junior varsity

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    again, in your opinion.
    judges are professionals, and the judges who score these mega fights are the best of the best.
    your opinion (unprofessional) is as good as you being a home doctor diagnosing your own sickness based on internet research...
    leave it to the professionals, please!


    marquez vs pacquiao ONE was before pacquiao the rockstar
    so i dont think judges were super biased.

    marquez vs pacquiao TWO was also before pacqiao became the unbeatable sensation we know now, even though he had gained a lot of momentum and respect

    i would say, tonight's fight, was AFTER pacquiao became a rockstar.
    so i would agree that there are some favoring but thats part of the game.
    floyd mayweather also won some 'closer' fights because of his reputation
     
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    actually, emmanuel was super motivated for this fight and had one of the best camps ever according to his trainer and conditioning coach

    I had it 116-112 or 117-111 for Juan

    emmanuel didn't win no 5 rounds for sure let alone 8
     
  16. junior varsity

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    Like i said in post #134

     
  17. TyCooN

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    you must not watch enough boxing if you're not familiar with robberies

    what happened tonight is the much more marketable fighter who is supposed to co-star in the biggest fight in history, you know which one, got a gift decision because there was too much money on the line

    Whitaker got robbed years ago against Chavez for similar reasons
     
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    When was the last time you remember a trainer and conditioning coach saying that their fighter had a shitty camp and was out of shape and unmotivated?

    Anyone who follows boxing knows that MP probably has lost some of his focus due to all the other crap he does. That's always the thing I've felt would end up hurting him and it certainly did tonight.

    Also, 117-111 for JMM is as ridiculous as the 116-112 for MP. JMM deserved the win, but quit being a rank homer.
     
  19. TyCooN

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    yes, he did

    how many rounds did you have him winning?
     
  20. Lord-Barrington

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    Or De La Hoya vs Mayweather. Remember that one? Big money fighters get the decisions.

    Underlying reason is right, though. Barring a knockout there was almost no way the judges were going to give this one to JMM.
     

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