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TyCooN's Official Boxing Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by TyCooN, Nov 8, 2009.

  1. TyCooN

    TyCooN Senior member

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    What a fucking disgrace. 119-110? Martinez fought the fight of his life and get this? What a joke.
    This is why PBF is rejecting the idea of hosting March 13th in Dallas. Texas is known for whoreable judges.

    Looks like they aren't using that girly catch weight shit this time around either.
     
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    I thought it was because he didn't want to fight outdoors. Anyway you taking jabs at Pacquiao at every opportunity is getting old very quick.
     
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    I thought it was because he didn't want to fight outdoors. Anyway you taking jabs at Pacquiao at every opportunity is getting old very quick.
    I know enough about my boxing history to know that catchweights are some recent bullshit. A reigning welterweight, 140-147, champion should be able to defend his belt from any fighter coming in within that range. If not that person shouldn't be called the welterweight champion.
     
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    That's not the point, is it? The point is that you take cheap shots at every opportunity. Fanny pac this, fanny pac that. I see that you're very concerned with weight issues. How come I don't see you taking digs at Floyd for coming in overweight for the weigh-in when fighting naturally two division lower Marquez? I know boxing fans in general are retarded but jesus man, come on.
     
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    That's not the point, is it? The point is that you take cheap shots at every opportunity. Fanny pac this, fanny pac that. I see that you're very concerned with weight issues. How come I don't see you taking digs at Floyd for coming in overweight for the weigh-in when fighting naturally two division lower Marquez? I know boxing fans in general are retarded but jesus man, come on.
    You bring up a good point. I was going to bring this up myself. If you're interested in knowing what I think, my idea is that he did that on purpose to help with the negotiations for March 13th. It's like his middle finger to the other camp that lets them know he won't budge if they AZZk for a catchweight.

    Anyways, catchweights are still bullshit, especially when it comes to trying to titles. If a fighter is so small that that he needs other fighters to come in on a limited weight when he bears the name for the entire division, then maybe he has on the wrong size. Nov 14th proved that pac can can handle the welterweight division just like all the other welterweights. He still hit fast and hard enough to TKO a full blown, dangerous welterweight; and he was able to walk through the punches of one of the hardest hitters in the 140-147 range. He'll only get moar credit for whatever he wins now at welterweight since he doesn't have the need to use his catch weight training wheels.
     
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    Pacquaio vs Mayweather is off according to Arum.
     
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    Pacquaio vs Mayweather is off according to Arum.

    Yeah, what the hell is the beef?

    From what I've read in several poorly written articles, Pacquaio is refusing to take a blood test 30 days before the fight, but is OK with being tested a day before the fight? [​IMG] Someone understand these ridiculous boxing politics to me, because I want to see Floyd hand some ass.
     
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    Yeah, what the hell is the beef? From what I've read in several poorly written articles, Pacquaio is refusing to take a blood test 30 days before the fight, but is OK with being tested a day before the fight? [​IMG] Someone understand these ridiculous boxing politics to me, because I want to see Floyd hand some ass.
    Floyd's daddy along with a handful of people in the boxing world suspect that fanny pac is on steroids. Word on the streets is that Floyd accepted fanny pac's crazy demand of $10 million for each pound Money comes in overweight. Comparing that to Sept 19th where Money had to pay $300K for each pound he comes in over to Marquez. If we do the math there fanny pac thinks he's worth about 33 times what Marquez is worth. There goes the humble peoples' champ. Fanny pac's reasoning behind his refusal of taking the drug tests vary from who you AZZk in his camp. Roach, his trainer, says it'll make him weak physically which is bullshit. Floyd is demanding Olympics style testing since it's moar reliable than the standard urine. The athletes in the Olympics break records all the time with all those tests done on them. Bob arum, his promoter, claims he's scared of needles. Let's get this straight he has a few tattoos on his body, he supposedly "wants" to fight the greatest fighter in the world, and it's a $50 million payday for him...yet he's scared of needles?[​IMG] That's extremely unbecoming of a boxer. Getting AZZaulted through the face comes with how they make a living. Fanny pac, the man himself, states that it'll fuck with him mentally. Keep in mind that any "weakening" that happens to him will happen to Mainstream Money Mayweather. He would need to take the same tests. People wouldn't be so hard on him if his camp just stuck to the game plan by using one single consistent reason. I already have a few pactard, pinoy friends who are throwing him under the bus. They seem jealous to me. They were able to call all the shots in their last couple of fights since they were the bigger draw. Cotto got punked for his WELTERweight belt by putting it up at a CATCHWEIGHT fight. This time they're saying they don't want to play by "Money's rules". 1) Money is the bigger draw. Check both of their total PPV sales. Pac had greater numbers in their most recent fights, but he had a dance partner. HBO only counts purchases in the States, and Puerto Rico is considered apart of it. 2) Money is arguing that it's for the sake of the sport. I don't know if he's bullshitting or not, but a big fight like this would be a great pioneer to set the standards for drug testing in boxing. Fighting someone whose cheating or on steroids is too dangerous in a brutal, combat sport. TyCooN's Thinking: Floyd has a big ego, he knows how to play mind games, and he's out to destroy fanny pac's legacy. Floyd doesn't just want to beat manny's AZZ, make the $50 mil, and take his belt. He wants to be remembered as the greatest. People are already saying that Floyd won't ever be able to catch up to fanny pac's resume. Floyd has a history of making elite fighters look like amateurs. Money's average connect % is moar than twice of his opponents at 49% to 21%, and they typically throw twice as many punches as he does. Boxing is the art of hitting without getting hit. As egotistical as it sounds when Floyd says he IS boxing there's actually merit to it. Whoever is in doubt can go check the compuBox stats. If Pretty Boy Floyd can make manny look ordinary like he does to most after fanny has to run circles around the drug tests then people will see his legacy as suspect. Anyways, he's pretty much shitting on all of fanny's big wins with what these drug test demands imply. Fanny has stated himself that Floyd is trying to fuck with his head. Fighting an overly aggressive, angry, and reckless person is a counter-puncher's dream. I can see Floyd rope-a-doping fanny as fanny lets his hands fly to do one of his perceived amazing combos, the pinoys cheer in hope like the Oscar/Hatton/Marquez fans did, his shit either gets parried by Floyd or just barely grazes him, and then Money kills him with a couple of consecutive right hands. That's my ideal ending. Youtube Mayweather KO Ndou for an example. I hope manny is clean. It's not good for the sake of boxing if he's using steroids. Let's just hope this is all A-class psychological warfare ran by Money. Arum is talking out of his AZZ. He's a damn boxing promoter. There's too much money for him. Sounds like he's bluffing at Money with his ultimatum. The fact that he's making his team back down due to the drug tests will only make the critics moar skeptical of how legit fanny pac really is. Risky play on their part. - A biased Money fan
     
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    Oh, and word on the streets is that fanny pac wants to take the Mayweathers to court since he feels this drug testing biz is destroying his reputation. I'm not even going to say anything.
     
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    My friend just had his first pro fight last night. Freddie Roach was there.[​IMG]
     
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    Both of Roach's fighters won their fights in my city last weekend. The first won cause the other corner threw in the towel, and the second managed to KO the other fighter in the very last second of the round.
     
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    Haye - Ruiz and Hopkins - Roy Jones, tonight.

    Naturally, I'm more excited about the Haye fight. Odds are on the Hayemaker but I sense some doubt in his own mind. Could just be some reverse psychology. Got really horrible images of Haye getting suckered in the clinch and stumbling around like a baby giraffe. Let's hope he manages to ping Ruiz early and knock the 'quiet man' out.
     
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    Haye - Ruiz and Hopkins - Roy Jones, tonight.

    Naturally, I'm more excited about the Haye fight. Odds are on the Hayemaker but I sense some doubt in his own mind. Could just be some reverse psychology. Got really horrible images of Haye getting suckered in the clinch and stumbling around like a baby giraffe. Let's hope he manages to ping Ruiz early and knock the 'quiet man' out.

    Do you think Jones has what it takes to pull off his puncher's chance against Hopkins at this stage or will it be a one sided beating?[​IMG]
     
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    I know the heavyweight division has been pretty dull the past couple of years, but what do you guys think of David Tua's comeback?

    I remember 10 years ago he was outboxed by Lennox Lewis, but now that he's not around, i don't think there's anyone in the division with that much skill.

    The problem is it's gonna be really difficult for him to get enough fights. Even if people don't rate him, not many are gonna want to fight him because of the risk he poses with his power (remember when he destroyed Ruiz in 10 seconds?).
     
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    Anyone check David Haye's win against Ruiz?

    Absolutely dismantled. Phenomenal punching power and angles. Classy.

    @TyCoon: For me it's difficult to say. Always preferred Jones but his boxing merits clearly haven't translated to middle-age. Hopkins will probably win.
     
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    Looks like it's going to be a shut out win for Bernard Hopkins. Jones can only win by KO now, but Hopkins is too smart to let that happen. He's up there with Mayweather and Marquez in ring IQ.
     
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    Blech. People complain that grappling in MMA is boring, but at least there it can end a fight. In boxing grappling is just stalling. This fight is lame, lame lame, nothing but grab jab grab.
     
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    The main point for me is this. The people who bought this shit along with The Uneventful Event are basically saying to all the boxing promotional companies that it doesn't matter how shit the undercard is, it doesn't matter how shit or irrelevant the main event is, we will just fucking buy it anyway!

    The rubbish cards at ridiculous prices will never stop while people like you guys buy any old crap with your hard earned money.

    Obviously you are free to do with your money whatever you wish, but buying fucking rubbish like this isn't helping boxing in any way at all. You all moan that boxing is dying and one of the main reasons for this is because its almost impossible to get a decent card on free tv these days. That will never change while you guys just open up your arses to be raped with cards like this that had zero relevance in the sport. Zero!
     
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    Anyone check David Haye's win against Ruiz?

    Absolutely dismantled. Phenomenal punching power and angles. Classy.

    Just caught a glimpse of that. Other than the rabbit punch Haye did on Ruiz in rd 1 I have no complaints. Finally a heavyweight who can fight off the back foot.
     
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    The main point for me is this. The people who bought this shit along with The Uneventful Event are basically saying to all the boxing promotional companies that it doesn't matter how shit the undercard is, it doesn't matter how shit or irrelevant the main event is, we will just fucking buy it anyway!

    The rubbish cards at ridiculous prices will never stop while people like you guys buy any old crap with your hard earned money.

    Obviously you are free to do with your money whatever you wish, but buying fucking rubbish like this isn't helping boxing in any way at all. You all moan that boxing is dying and one of the main reasons for this is because its almost impossible to get a decent card on free tv these days. That will never change while you guys just open up your arses to be raped with cards like this that had zero relevance in the sport. Zero!


    You all? How do you know anyone one this board even paid for or watched the fight? I caught a few rounds on Veetle. As for "moaning that boxing is dying", I don't hear much of that around these parts in fact, you're the main boxing cheerleader here.
     

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