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TyCooN's Official Boxing Thread

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I remember a few years ago I saw an interview of Manny and he was already starting to sound punch drunk. If he wants to run for President it would be good if he didn’t get any worse.
 

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I had very low expectations for the Triller card, and yet it still failed to meet them. Although seeing Tito Ortiz get slept was very satisfying.
 
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I had very low expectations for the Triller card, and yet it still failed to meet them. Although seeing Tito Ortiz get slept was very satisfying.
That Holyfield fight felt like I was watching my dad beat up my grandpa at a backyard barbecue.

The whole thing was just sad.
 

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Well that really exposed Joshua's limitations. He's a very strong guy and he's technically a good boxer, but he doesn't have the greatest skills, and a real technician like Usyk can take him apart, as he showed tonight.

I'd love to see Fury vs. Usyk now just because it would be the two most accomplished boxers in the division and the most mismatched for size... but I am not sure Fury's head is in the right place even to beat Wilder again at the moment. we'll see.
 

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Usyk is the greatest cruiserweight of all time (yes, better than Evander) and is also P4P number one (yes, better than Canelo).
 

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Usyk is the greatest cruiserweight of all time (yes, better than Evander) and is also P4P number one (yes, better than Canelo).
I would like to see him fight Andy Ruiz or Joseph Parker.
 

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I would like to see him fight Andy Ruiz or Joseph Parker.
It would be a waste of his time IMHO - neither is at the same level, especially not Parker. There are a lot of better up-and-coming heavyweights, if Usyk sticks around enough. But I'd much rather see if he could deal with Fury or Wilder. Wilder is much more dangerous than Joshua and Usyk isn't larger enough to use his undoubted skills in the way that Fury did when he combined them with basically weighing and wearing Wilder down. Fury, on the other hand, is as skillful and mobile as Usyk (I think Fury may be more skillful and Usyk more mobile) and similarly lacks something in power, but he's so much bigger... both would be real contests.
 

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It would be a waste of his time IMHO - neither is at the same level, especially not Parker. There are a lot of better up-and-coming heavyweights, if Usyk sticks around enough. But I'd much rather see if he could deal with Fury or Wilder. Wilder is much more dangerous than Joshua and Usyk isn't larger enough to use his undoubted skills in the way that Fury did when he combined them with basically weighing and wearing Wilder down. Fury, on the other hand, is as skillful and mobile as Usyk (I think Fury may be more skillful and Usyk more mobile) and similarly lacks something in power, but he's so much bigger... both would be real contests.
Fury is a master manipulator and has a very carefully crafted resume. The last time he fought a mobile, athletic fighter - who happened to be a mediocre cruiserweight - he almost got KOed and resolved instead to give up on boxing him and just bully him by using Klitschko wrestling strategies.

He's never fought a properly athletic fighter since then.
 

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