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I am thinking of purchasing the John Lobb Prestige Garnier II shoes. This model is a simple oxford lace-up shoe and I am considering whether to get it in a simple black museum calf leather or in a black patent (shiny) leather. The salespeople at JL have told me that they can get the calf leather very shiny to have a simmilar effect to the patent leather. My question is what forum-members recommend to wear with a tuxedo, black calf leather or patent shiny leather? What would be more stylish and appropriate?
 

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Oh boy.

I'd get the calf. They'll be more versatile that way. Since some here dispute the technical correctness of patent leathers anyway, I wouldn't worry about it. Just make sure they get a good mirror shine.
 

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I'd do black calf whole cuts
 

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I guess it depends on your age and the type of black tie events you attend. But I would also vote for the calf shoes with a mirror shine. I just don't like patent leather shoes, however "proper" they may be. I'm not even going to comment on opera pumps - I don't understand how any man can wear those...
 

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I personally think calf pumps would be most stylish and appropriate, but if you have any doubt then abstain. The Garnier II will work fine in highly polished black museum.
 

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I have several pairs. Patent leather oxfords, grosgrain oxfords, and a very shiny calf leather slip on, with grosgrain piping. I use them all, depending on mood, time of the year, occasion, ensemble's needs.
 

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Personally, I can't stand the black museum calf. I save black shoes for only the most formal occasions, and I wouldn't want light gray clouds in my shoes on those occasions. I don't think you'll be able to shine black museum to the point where it looks decent enough to be worn with black tie. Also, you have to consider if you'd really wear a black plain toe oxford enough non-black tie to justify not getting appropriate formal shoes.
 

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I had the people at Lobb send me both pairs that you are talking about. I preferred the patent and went with that. The calf is certainly nice, but I think the patent looks better in that particular shoe. I do not think that about all shoes.

A wholecut seems just wrong to me. I do not see it as an appropriate formal shoe. Actually, I don't really like them in general.
 

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Originally Posted by hopkins_student
Personally, I can't stand the black museum calf. I save black shoes for only the most formal occasions, and I wouldn't want light gray clouds in my shoes on those occasions. I don't think you'll be able to shine black museum to the point where it looks decent enough to be worn with black tie. Also, you have to consider if you'd really wear a black plain toe oxford enough non-black tie to justify not getting appropriate formal shoes.
Is the black museum calf cloudy? That is disappointing. I really don't like the whole museum calf thing., but seriously, who wants a cloudy black shoe?
 

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Originally Posted by iammatt
Is the black museum calf cloudy? That is disappointing. I really don't like the whole museum calf thing., but seriously, who wants a cloudy black shoe?

The swatch I saw today at the JL trunk show at NM was cloudy, more so even than the dark brown museum.

Honestly, unless you wear black tie on a monthly basis, I'd recommend getting a pair of Brooks Brothers patent oxfords for $250 unless price is no option. Although if price is no option you could get the Garnier II in both patent and black
museum calf
 

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iammattA wholecut seems just wrong to me. I do not see it as an appropriate formal shoe. Actually said:
A wholecut to me would seem more formal than a plain toe bal. It's definately sleeker and more plain.
What's wrong to me is a pump especially with those dainty little bows.
 

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Originally Posted by jml90
A wholecut to me would seem more formal than a plain toe bal. It's definately sleeker and more plain.

Aside from wholecut monks, I've never met a wholecut that I liked.
 

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Originally Posted by hopkins_student
Aside from wholecut monks, I've never met a wholecut that I liked.
Quite the opposite with me.
 

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Originally Posted by hopkins_student
Aside from wholecut monks, I've never met a wholecut that I liked.
+1 and I really like wholecut monks.
 

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