Tuxedo question

[ChiliPalmer]

What is a fair price for a Super 150's, peak lapel, unvented, fully canvassed tuxedo?

 

[saiyar1]

Waaay too little info. A lot more goes into value than just that. Brand/model would help to understand quality of construction. Now Be Cool, ok?

 

[ChiliPalmer]

Originally Posted by saiyar1

Waaay too little info. A lot more goes into value than just that. Brand/model would help to understand quality of construction. Now Be Cool, ok?
I left "brand" out of it for a reason, chump.

 

[Alex C]

Hard to guess without brand, so it becomes truly a guess.

Just based on what I've seen around, I've never seen a fully canvassed tuxedo below at least a few grand, new. Armanis run around three retail. I think BBBF is in the same area. Closest ballpark I can drum up. Used/resale is a crapshoot.

 

[ChiliPalmer]

Originally Posted by Alex C

Hard to guess without brand, so it becomes truly a guess. Just based on what I've seen around, I've never seen a fully canvassed tuxedo below at least a few grand, new. Armanis run around three retail. I think BBBF is in the same area. Closest ballpark I can drum up. Used/resale is a crapshoot.
Say it were Canali. Now say it were Corneliani. Now say it was PRL. Finally, say it was Isaia. Now hazard a guess.

 

[Harold falcon]

Assuming this is OTR, brand new, then minimum $1500 retail, plus tailoring.

 

[ChiliPalmer]

Fair enough. Thanks, Harvey.

Originally Posted by harvey_birdman

Assuming this is OTR, brand new, then minimum $1500 retail, plus tailoring.

 

[makewayhomer]

I bought my super 100's Paul Stuart NWT for $475. peak, unvented, 1 button. I'm not sure you want super 150's for a tuxedo?

this was @ Keezars in Cambridge, MA, kind of like a downscale, ramshackle Filenes Basement

full retail is around $2k I think for a PS tux

 

[ChiliPalmer]

Originally Posted by makewayhomer

I bought my super 100's Paul Stuart NWT for $475. peak, unvented, 1 button. I'm not sure you want super 150's for a tuxedo? this was @ Keezars in Cambridge, MA, kind of like a downscale, ramshackle Filenes Basement
I asked because I'm in the market for a tuxedo and have an opportunity to buy a NWT, SB, 1 button, peak lapel, jeted pocket, unvented, fully canvassed, made in Italy (mid-tier), Super 150's tuxedo for under $900. And while I didn't want to spend that much, it seems like a fair deal for a classic garment.

 

[bleachboy]

Originally Posted by ChiliPalmer

I asked because I'm in the market for a tuxedo and have an opportunity to buy a NWT, SB, 1 button, peak lapel, jeted pocket, unvented, fully canvassed, made in Italy (mid-tier), Super 150's tuxedo for under $900.

And while I didn't want to spend that much, it seems like a fair deal for a classic garment.

Jos. A. Bank has this, except Super 120's and made in a sweatshop, for $250. Also grosgrain lapels, no belt loops, single pleat pants, for 1000% SF approval. Except for the brand...

 

[ChiliPalmer]

Originally Posted by bleachboy

Except for the brand...
So true. I hinted at this in my original post.

 

[Alex C]

Originally Posted by ChiliPalmer

Say it were Canali.

Now say it were Corneliani.

Now say it was PRL.

Finally, say it was Isaia.

Now hazard a guess.

No.

Why do you require full canvas? Will you be wearing it often? If not, the rigid confines of proper suiting can be (partially) abandoned for a piece that will be worn a few times a year. A half canvassed BB 1818 Tux in the Fitzgerald cut is sub $1000, made of solid materials without being excessive and has a modern-ish cut without being susceptible to heavy changes in fashion.

But the JAB is a seriously good deal. It is 100% "correct" without being an allowable brand. You could always use the leftover money to buy formal pumps.

 

[TimelesStyle]

Gilt had their Martin Greenfield OTR that matched this description for a grand, which is the same price I paid for my Zegna at the outlets. So, I'd say $6-800 for something that isn't backed by a maker's reputation/marked up due to a brand name and $1k-1,500 for something that is (depending on whose). This is, of course, contingent upon it being sold in a store with some legitimacy. I'd knock about 40% off for buying from an individual where, even if it's BNWT, it's the same as buying secondhand.

 

[Matt S]

It seems that quality is important, so why do you care about super 150s fabric? You do know that super numbers mean nothing of quality, right? I try to avoid anything over super 120s because at higher numbers the fibres become weaker, no matter the quality. If you really want super 150s there are a lot of cheap examples out there.

 

[Harold falcon]

Originally Posted by bleachboy

Jos. A. Bank has this, except Super 120's and made in a sweatshop, for $250. Also grosgrain lapels, no belt loops, single pleat pants, for 1000% SF approval. Except for the brand...

JAB is full canvas?