Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by PearlJamFan, Mar 18, 2005.
Traditional arguments aside - what would you have the kid wearing to his prom Manton?
I agree with Phil: just by getting it right (i.e., adhering to the "rules") PearlJamFan will look different and better than 99% of his peers. Jacket: his choice, but no notched lapels. Â If he can find grosgrain, great. Â But satin is OK. Shirt: fold collar. Â A lot of the kids will no doubt wear wings, but they will be limp, lousy, minescule attached collars. Â No one will have the right kind, because in this country they can only be procured bepoke. Â Avoid those stupid 1/4" pleats. Â A pique front or else the widest pleats you can find. Tie: black bat wing, tied by him. Shoes: Patent oxfords, no cap. Â (Sorry, Phil, I prefer these to calf, all which seem to have toe caps, which is wrong; and the kid probably doesn't know how to spit shine a shoe). Â The horrible teasing he would endure for wearing a pump would simply not be worth it. Vest: Better than a cummerbund. Â Black or maybe black and white woven silk. Â That would certainly stand out without being too "naff".
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I beat Manton.... I beat Manton... And my wife does ask me "Just how old are you?"
Has anyone seen the movie "Shall we dance"? If not you can watch the trailer here Shall we dance its around the middle of it Well there is a part in it where Richard Gere is wearing a tux with a white bow tie. Do you think that will look good? Just like to add....im not fat (12% body fat), and im not thin Im 6'2 and workout a lot...so...just keep that in mind
Manton, I agree with you on every count, save one. I'd have the kid don a medium butterfly instead of a bat wing. The butterfly, to these eyes, creates a more visually appealing look than the often-too-narrow bat wing.
No. Noooooooo. Whatever you do, don't do that. It is seriously cheeseball. Black only. There are other ways to cut loose a little bit.
By the way, are you sure he wasn't wearing tails? White tie properly belongs with the tailcoat.
I have a really wide (fat) bat wing that ties into a beautiful knot -- better than a butterfly. I agree about the narrow bat wing, though.
PearlJamFan ~ Stick with classic. Go back and look at Bond films through the years. With only a few exceptions (70s), he always looks strikingly handsome and cool in his classic formalwear. If this is a picture you don't want to be embarrassed to show your kids someday, avoid the ultra-trendy. Just ask my powder-blue-clad prom date. You're young. So if you want to throw in a bit of dash, do it with a pocket square or links, as someone else suggested. And DEFINITELY tie a real bowtie. It is truly no more difficult than tying your shoe. I personally like the look of a waistcoat (vest) better than a cummerbund, as you will invariably lose the coat as you boogie the night away. The waistcoat will keep you looking sharp with the jacket off. The more fitted garment will better show off your studly young physique. The cummerbund w/ shirtsleeves look has a tendency to get a little blousy/sloppy after a few hours. But whatever you decide, most of all, have fun.
There is another option. Once you get older and more serious and have more at stake (i.e. dinner dance at CEOs mansion etc,) you will hesitate to pull off something like this. Unless ofcourse you are the CEO. So my advice, go wild young man, damn convention at this youthful stage. -
Well, at least the orange-clad fellow is showing a good amount of cuff. The tux on the right I think I wore to MY prom back in 1983.
Richard Gere is wearing tails. (and properly as far as I can tell.) The competition dancers usually have to have them specially tailored so they look good with arms up.
Just make sure you have the most well-fitting tuxedo that exists for your size. There's nothing you can do to "jazz it up" with a tuxedo that won't make you look like a poon. This is coming from someone who dispises boring/traditional in almost every situation.
Opt for flat-front trousers if your ass can be accomodated by them, and go for a slim-fit jacket with a sharp sillhouette.
For prom, women have like 10000 options, you have one. You have to make sure it's just the best damn variation of that option you can find.
If you really want to be different then a little jaunt to Jean-Paul Gaultier should be sufficent.
But that aside I say a double-breasted peak label in black since midnight blue is very difficult to come by anyways.
Perhaps I have a bias towards that stance.
Then a regular point collar snow white shirt with a hand-tied bow tie in black silk should be complete. Perhaps the kids will find the opera pumps reminiscent of the proverbial "pimp." Thus "cool."
You should stand out if you actually wear something proper and traditional.
Its lost would be most unfortunate. A sartorial crime really, to see a bunch of fools "boogie" about sans jackets. Leave it on, I say.
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