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Trying to build business casual wardrobe - NEED help!

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by cnst, Jul 10, 2007.

  1. cnst

    cnst New Member

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    I just recently graduated college and am going to begin work at a large consulting firm.

    My measurements: Shirt size - 16.5 32/33
    Chest 40'
    Waist 30'

    I'm trying to build a basic business casual wardrobe but I'm running into sizing problems. I can't find any shirts that fit. Even slim fit shirts (Brooks Brothers, etc.) are too big around the lower chest and waist - they billow out. I haven't tried all slim fit shirts; i'm checking out the slimfit thread.

    Pants - I'm also having a hard time in this area. Pants that do fit well (in the upper thigh area - not too much excess fabric) tend to be too tight in the crotch area, i.e. a unsightly bulge. Not all hope is lost as I have found a single pair that fits well.


    I'm getting very frustrated at this point. Any advice? Should I just get the best fitting shirt I can and take it to a tailor to bring the sides in? Any idea on how much this would cost? Could I just take it to an alteration shop?

    Or, should I get custom made shirts? And pants?

    I'm looking to buy 3-4 pants, and probably 6-7 shirts spending ~$90 for pants and ~$60-70 for shirts.
     
  2. username79

    username79 Senior member

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    I just recently graduated college and am going to begin work at a large consulting firm. My measurements: Shirt size - 16.5 32/33 Chest 40' Waist 30'
    Hello, I recently graduated college as well and am also working for a large (Very large!) consulting firm. PM me the name of it, as I have a good guess, and we might even be on the same project. In any case, I went the following route (we have the same chest/waist measurements, except my shirt is 16/35). I bought RTW pants at discount stores (Off 5th, NMLC, Marshalls) and shoes off of eBay. I went custom and MTM for 10 shirts, as fit is very important to my confidence and all RTW billows out of my waist like a giant tent. I then bought shirts at discount (RTW), Talbott, Ike Behar, Barbera, David Chu, etc. and had them cut down to round things out. So, I bought the following in the last month: - 4 shirts, bespoke, Ray Custom Shirtmaker - 6 shirts, Individualized MTM from a men's shop. - 5 shirts, RTW Talbott, Barbera, etc. tailored and cut down - 4 pairs of Zanellas 32 (no buldge) - 2 pairs of Incotex 34 (buldgeish) - 2 pairs of Zegna 33 (great fit) - 2 pairs of Barry Bricken 32 (on sale at Marshalls for $10/ea) - 1 pair Luciano Barbera (marked 38, but fit ??) - 8 pairs of Allen Edmonds (eBay) - 2 pairs Santoni (eBay) - 2 pairs Ferragamo (eBay) - 5 Talbott Belts (drove around to different Marshalls, collected them all at $22/ea) - 3 Corneliani sportcoats (eBay) - 1 Zegna sportcoats (Marshalls) I feel its a good starter wardrobe.
     
  3. cnst

    cnst New Member

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    I'm headed to a former big 4 firm (accenture/bearingpoint/capgemini/deloitte/ibm consulting). where are you headed? MBB? boutique?

    thanks for the advice. how much did you pay for the custom shirts? i bought a few custom shirts last time i was in east asia, for like 40 bucks each (good quality), but i'm not sure where to go with here in the states.

    i guess i'll go check out marshalls today. i tend to avoid marshalls type stores because it's nearly impossible to find variety in my size.


    any other suggestions from other board members? this is for the washington dc area btw
     
  4. gumercindo

    gumercindo Senior member

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    cnst, I also live in the DC area. If the slim fits at BB don't work (btw, they're having a 40-50% off sale right now), it still might be worth just to have a few b/c the price is so good. As far as elsewhere to get shirts, depending on your budget, you might want to go the mail order route and check out some of the Jermyn St. (or, off Jermyn) to pick up some decent shirts at a nice price (Tyrwhitt, Lewin, H&K, etc.).

    For example, to just get yourself set up with a bunch of shirts, check out TM Lewin's sale - you should be able to find shirts with nice patters for $40-$60. Nice way to "start" a wardrobe if money is an issue for you now.

    Invest in shoes, but also make sure you exhaust the sales going on right now (BBs, Saks, NM, Nordstrom, etc.) and ebay.
     
  5. username79

    username79 Senior member

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    I'm headed to a former big 4 firm (accenture/bearingpoint/capgemini/deloitte/ibm consulting).

    any other suggestions from other board members? this is for the washington dc area btw


    Yes, one of those, in the D.C. area as well.
     
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    username79 Senior member

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  7. gumercindo

    gumercindo Senior member

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  8. cnst

    cnst New Member

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    BB slim fit shirts look like ass on me

    i suppose i could get them tapered in. sauro custom tailor in dc quoted me ~$26.

    i guess that's not a bad deal if i can get shirts around 60-70.

    Have any of you had experience with tapering shirts in? What does the finished product look like?
     
  9. bdbb

    bdbb Senior member

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    You can try the Jos a Bank traveler's fabric tailored fit. They give me the best fit of any off the rack shirt and they really are no iron....as long as you don't let them sit for a long time after the washer/dryer are done they'll come out with no wrinkles.
     
  10. mbc

    mbc Senior member

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    Just find shirts that fit in the neck/chest/shoulders and have the sides taken in at a tailor. It might cost you a little more than just buying a shirt that fits the way you want, but how much time are you going to waste looking for something that, in all likelihood, you're not going to be able to find?
     
  11. zalb916

    zalb916 Senior member

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    any other suggestions from other board members? this is for the washington dc area btw

    mytailor.com does pretty good custom shirts that a number of people around here and on AAAC, myself included, think are a pretty good deal. They have a variety of price ranges, depending on the fabric. Although, I do recommend spending a little extra and going with the Thomas Mason fabrics. I've been very happy with my shirts from them, and I believe they will be in the D.C. area in a few weeks, if you prefer to have measurements taken in person.
     

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