Okay guys, we had to secret squirrel a thread because it contained one rather dubious video, and one that was just beyond the ken. You are all old enough to reflect "Now, is this going to be appropriate at Styleforum? Or is it just going to make work for the mods because I know that it is disgusting, way beyond the line, and going to get secret squirrel?" I am going to start timing out people who fail to exercise their judgement when making posts. Please, no First Amendment arguments here. Anyone who posts something truly objectionable to make a point is going to get a long timeout. This is a private club, and the management reserves the right to kick people out.