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Top Chef All Stars

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Manton, Dec 2, 2010.

  1. ChicagoRon

    ChicagoRon Senior member

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    Very true. Did you see that HBO documentary on Le Cirque? All due respect to Mr. Maccioni, but I don't even think he could make a bowl of cereal.
    I did... it was great. So, the guy couldn't cook, but he knew how to make an experience for diners and hire a chef that could live up to what he was trying to build. I doubt Drew Nioperent or Jeff Chodorow could make a PBJ sandwich either.
     


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    to a certain extent, he shouldn't have to. i mean, i've been to a ton of restaurants where the owner had little more going for him than 3 dishes, charm and an ability to run a good small organization. and i've been much happier most times than someplace where the owner has a boatload of skills, wild ideas and absolutely no idea how to run a business. of course, that's not what top chef is necessarily all about.
     


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    foodguy Senior member

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    I doubt Drew Nioperent or Jeff Chodorow could make a PBJ sandwich either.

    drew's a decent enough cook. chodorow, nope. and that's also a criticism that's been leveled at alice waters, with only a certain amount of validity.
     


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    mm84321 Senior member

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    I did... it was great. So, the guy couldn't cook, but he knew how to make an experience for diners and hire a chef that could live up to what he was trying to build.

    I doubt Drew Nioperent or Jeff Chodorow could make a PBJ sandwich either.


    Agreed. He is very old school Italian, which I think contributes to why he is so successful.

    I especially liked the part of the documentary where they were all eating at McDonalds. A nice juxtaposition.
     


  5. ChicagoRon

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    drew's a decent enough cook. chodorow, nope. and that's also a criticism that's been leveled at alice waters, with only a certain amount of validity.
    She's got one friggin' restaurant. She better be able to cook. THe others, at least, have empires.
     


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    kwilkinson Having a Ball

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    I've heard that Alice Waters can cut fresh produce and plate it beautifully almost on par with the Eataly Vegetable Butcher. The only difference is, she cries over each carrot as she slides her blade through it.
     


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    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    to a certain extent, he shouldn't have to. i mean, i've been to a ton of restaurants where the owner had little more going for him than 3 dishes, charm and an ability to run a good small organization. and i've been much happier most times than someplace where the owner has a boatload of skills, wild ideas and absolutely no idea how to run a business. of course, that's not what top chef is necessarily all about.
    What exactly is this abomination of a show about anyway?
     


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    What exactly is this abomination of a show about anyway?

    like so much of other tv, confrontation. and don't criticize too much until you give up CE.
     


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    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    like so much of other tv, confrontation. and don't criticize too much until you give up CE.
    The point of CE is discussion. You were supposed to be a universal lover, I thought.
     


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    What exactly is this abomination of a show about anyway?
    you're more mysanthropic than usually lately, Matt... it's a fun show... now, complaining about the dialog on the virtue of economic growth, wel... that was justifed.
     


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    The point of CE is discussion.
    oh, in that case, Top Chef is about cooking.
    i sigged that for irony. i'm probably just as misanthropic as you are. well, maybe almost.
     


  12. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    you're more mysanthropic than usually lately, Matt... it's a fun show... now, complaining about the dialog on the virtue of economic growth, wel... that was justifed.
    I just don't get the show. I've only watched a few times, though. I don't really like this generation of food on TV, though I loved the 80s-90s stuff.
     


  13. itsstillmatt

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    oh, in that case, Top Chef is about cooking.


    i sigged that for irony. i'm probably just as misanthropic as you are. well, maybe almost.

    That's OK. I get ironic sigs.
     


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    I just don't get the show. I've only watched a few times, though. I don't really like this generation of food on TV, though I loved the 80s-90s stuff.
    The food is totally secondary. It's more like watching Real Housewives.
     


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    The food is totally secondary. It's more like watching Real Housewives.

    Which one? Each has a very unique character...[​IMG]
     


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