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Tom james suits

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by shoreman80, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. shoreman80

    shoreman80 Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone have any experience with Tom James suits? I've seen his name associated with Oxxford, but I wasn't certain of quality/value. I don't wear suits often, but I don't want to look shabby if I do.

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  2. banksmiranda

    banksmiranda Senior member

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    Tom James Co and Oxxford are both part of the Individualized Apparel Group. I believe that Oxxford makes the top-of-the-line Tom James suits, but that lower Tom James lines are outsourced. Spencer Hays started the Tom James Co some time ago and bought Oxxford in the mid-1990s.
     


  3. A Harris

    A Harris Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I've never seen the Tom James/Oxxford collaborations, they are very rare. Don't believe ebay sellers who claim that every Tom James suit they have is made by Oxxford. The rest of the lines are not really worth considering, the quality is not very good.
     


  4. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Tom James is a part of IAG . (Indidualized apparal group)
    Oxxford is as well. The Oxxford suit is made in Chicago. The Tom James suit is made By English American near Baltimore.
    Tom James is the direct Sales force for IAG. They may have the option for selling you an Oxxford suit.

    Someone mentioned buying a Tom james suit on ebay. I would not do this because this suit is not a stock size. It was made for someone else.

    MOst of the garments sold by Tom james salesmen are of decent quality. Not great. It also depends on the ability of the salesperson to measure and fit. They are not tailors. They do know how to sell. Tom James is more about selling a large amount of clothing. Multiples.
     


  5. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Senior member

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    The main clientele for Tom James clothing seems to be professional men who have more money than time and/or ability to dress well.  The idea is that a salesman will come to your office, take a few measurements, and sell you an entire wardrobe.  If the saleslady I have been dealing with is any indication, the salesmen are very, very aggressive.  She has tried to sell me several sportscoats, slacks, and shirts all in one sitting, regardless of my clothing needs at the time, and has displayed a "what am I doing wasting my time" attitude when I have declined to purchase anything.  I too am rather skeptical that the quality merits the prices charged; I think there is a significant premium built into the prices for time saved from going shopping.
     


  6. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The tom James Sales people have quotas. They are supposed to make X number of calls a day. X number of appointments and Sell X amount of clothing.

    I have been making shirts for over 20 years and still hate to make more then a couple of shirts for a customer the first time. Why would I want to fix 10 shirts that are just slightly off.

    The custom shop was the same way. They had a return rate that was down right scary. I knew a guy that would go to the factory and buy the returns. He never had the same monogram initials twice.
     


  7. confmandi

    confmandi New Member

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    Tom James from IAG has a very agressive sales policy. Sales are definetively priority# 1. It's something similar to AVON ( note I'm not talking about quality...) Regardless, their price is fair enough.
    I do not not know why people tend to think this kind of company is not able to ensure quality. Sometimes you can find an excellent good with modest prices. Tom James has a lot to offer. Try and you will get surprised.
     


  8. shoreman80

    shoreman80 Well-Known Member

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    Gentlemen,

    Thank for the information. Forewarned, etc...
     


  9. Carlo

    Carlo Senior member

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    I've seen a few hundred, only one that I was sure Oxxford did. Some are very good, others standard fare. One hint (not conclusive but a good first check) is to look at the sleeve's - Oxxford's "kissing" buttons are pretty distinct and few do it exactly the way they do.

    If you see the expanding pockets inside (Oxxford patent) that's a giveaway too.
     


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