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Tom Ford

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by southjersey, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. Slickman

    Slickman Well-Known Member

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    And what exactly is a TF suit?
     
  2. Millerp

    Millerp Well-Known Member

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    If you have your heart set on a Tom Ford suit, get one.

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  3. teddieriley

    teddieriley Well-Known Member

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    Wait, you smell that?
    

    Look on the TF website. The cut and styling details, heavily influenced by the fashion for the season, is very distinct. Unless you can find a bespoke tailor that is more like a copyist (and nothing wrong with that), you are hard pressed to get a TF looking suit other than from TF. To mention Rub and Ercole as substitutes or alternatives is waay off.
     
  4. DerekS

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    well stated. theres 2 VERY different styles...one wont make the other. I absolutely love rubinaccis stuff, but a part of me will always want the dramatic tom ford styling.
     
  5. Superfluous

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    edit.
     
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  6. Klobber

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    I do not think we should even bother trying to compare suits - one always forget that some styles are more appropriate for certain people than others.

    Both you and Spoo have the ideal physique for a Tom Ford suit, it would be a no brainer that Tom Ford should bubble above the surface as a first / second choice suit (money allowing of course).

    Many people cannot carry off Tom Ford style with success. I am one of those to be quite frank. The Tom Ford suits I have (complete with batwing lapels) I put down to bad purchases because my build and looks are much more suited to the fuller more traditional cuts of Rubinacci, Brioni etc. I keep trying to wear those TF suits, but every time my wife throws a fit and says I do not look a picture of handsomeness in them - they take away rather than accentuate my features. For you and Spoo, Tom Ford etc is a good choice. For me, Ralph Lauren Purple Label, Brioni, Kiton cut and design their suits in a manner that enhances my looks. I do love Tom Ford's styling and fashion forwardness, but to jump into that bandwagon and carry them off as well as you could, I would have to somehow alter my DNA :lol:


    If you are true to size US 46, you will need to drastically size up. I am that size, and the two TF suits I have are size Euro 60 and Euro 58, with the 58 being slightly too small for me.
     
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  7. DerekS

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    details? i tried a few sportcoats at neimans...some fucking incredible fabrics and cuts.
     
  8. Slickman

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    I didn't mention Rubinacci as a substitute for Tom Ford's style, but rather a superior replacement. TF suits are heavily padded, have extra wide peak lapels, large pocket flaps and 5 buttons on the sleeves, definitely not something timeless. I think spending 7K on something that will go in and out of style is a complete waste of money. If you could get something of much better quality and fit from a bespoke tailor at a lower cost, I don't see any point of paying full retail for TF. If however you are finding TF at C21 at a great price, that is a completely different discussion altogether, but the OP appears to be going to the boutique on madison and not the department store. As for bespoke tailor's being a "copyist", you can get a TF look from rubinacci since their house style peak lapels are wide and bellied, but you will not get the padded shoulders.

    CASE IN POINT
     
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  9. teddieriley

    teddieriley Well-Known Member

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    Wait, you smell that?
    ^^Is your link to demonstrate how non-timeless an MTM TF suit is or is this supposed to be a pic of a Rub client getting the crazy lapels?
     
  10. Superfluous

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    It's a black, notch lapel sport coat. Ideally, I'd want a peak lapel, non-black sport coat, but for the price I can't complain. I can still wear it at night for dinners, etc, but hopefully it isn't too long (which it probably will be).
     
  11. Slickman

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    Just to show the OP that with bespoke you could get FU lapels should you choose to, not that I endorse the idea, but almost anythings possible with bespoke
     
  12. Sator

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    May I suggest that you guys also keep in mind the fact that many of the style features on a Ford are knocks of the Tommy Nutter-Edward Sexton styles of the 1970s. Edward Sexton says as much about the Ford look. The narrow-high waisted cut with high-concave shoulders and wide bellied lapels are all give the game away.

    You can go directly to the original source of the style - Edward Sexton himself:

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    http://www.edwardsexton.co.uk/

    Also Sexton pupils such as Davide Taub, head cutter at Maurice Sedwell, continue the tradition of this style:

    http://davidetaub.blogspot.com/

    In many cases, your local tailors may have considerable difficulty in making this type of high-concave shoulders, which are notoriously hard to get right.
     
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  13. Quarks

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    If you like Tom Ford's styling, it is the way to go. Hands down.
    I remembered trying TF suit for the first time. It felt almost weightless on my shoulder, the way it moulds & transforms your body into a V-shaped silhouette, armed with broad athletic shoulders, high but comfortable arm-holes, wide-but-not-over-the-top peaked lapels. From the side, the way it drapes over the arch of your upper back to your curvature of your spine and peaks ever so slightly, wrapping itself around the rounded curvature of the gluteus. It not only looks impressive, but felt like it. And very much so. To the point that it is hard to wrap your head around it that it is ready-to-wear.

    Having tried many suits around & being extremely picky at almost every detail, I must say I was floored by how it fits so damn well. The barchetta breast pockets, working surgeon's cuffs are some of the features that appealed to me.
    Having tried it on once, it makes it so difficult to walk away from such a beautiful construction, a work of art. How can that be? RTW? It has somewhat turned into an obsession to own one. And once owned one, you want another, in another colour, another type of fabric, another cut, perhaps even a 3-piece. And from there, you yearn for even a double-breasted.

    Bespoke yes. I guess my above description can accurately illustrate the experience of a bespoke suit. You can painstakingly choose how you want your suit to look like. Very personalised, but yet, the end product could still be how the tailor thinks you look best in his eyes.
    It is still not a TF suit.

    Price. TF is a luxury line. Luxury products are overinflated. Century 21 price - good on ya. Full price? If you can afford and dont give a flying f_ck. Go for it. TF apparently claims that it is catered to a specific group of clients but yet present itself with a mass appeal. (Sounds familar?) One may not fit snuggly into a TF suit but still secretly yearn to own something Tom Ford. A tie maybe? Or one of his Private Blends.

    Yes, I highly recommend TF. If price is of no object, go for it.
    I know I would, all over again.
     
  14. jeff13007

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    im sorry where are you getting padded shoulders from? i own 2 of his suits (base A) and a sport coat (base B) and neither have "heavily padded" shoulders
     
  15. othertravel

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    Actually, I've noticed the shoulder do stick out a bit; but that's a roping, not padding issue, correct?

    And Base B is crazy fitted.
     
  16. jeff13007

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    Btw about where TF suits are manufactured, i was in there last wed and ordered a MTO suit and i asked how come some were made in Switzerland and others in Italy, apparently they use zegna's factory which is on the border of both of those countries and this applies to their shirts as well which ever side of the border its made thats where the tag is gonna say its from, so im pretty sure its not the same place where zegna couture is made because i think those are made in Naples?
     
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    This is like telling someone who is shopping for an iPhone that they should really buy an IBM phone because they came up with the smartphone 15 years before Apple did.
     
  18. jefferyd

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    They are made in Padova.
     
  19. jeff13007

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    Sorry i was mistaken, i have two base A, 1 base C, and one base D. Im not sure is base B is the crazy fitted one, but my Base A and D are more fitted than my Base C. I wear a 48r jacket and the TF guy says i have a 30 inch waist but i still need to have the jacket waist taken in on a 48r so there is a bit of leeway there.
     
  20. jeff13007

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    Thanks! So that means they are not made in the same factory as Zegna couture right? Cuz the place TF is made started with and L i think,
     

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