Tom Ford Shirts (Fit and authenticity)

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Panos, May 8, 2012.

  1. Panos

    Panos Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,

    I am planing to buy some TF shirts online from ebay or SF and I need a couple of advices.
    I already own two of them, bought from Madison Av. boutique.

    Fit:
    So, the first question is if the TF shirts have different fits/lines. Those that I have, fit to me perfectly but I can't determine if there are slim fit, which they should be as I am a really slim guy. The only thing that I can see, is that are Made in Switzerland in size 38/15.

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    The second one is regarding the authenticity. I've seen many different shirts on ebay, some of them are Made in Italy and some of them are Made in Switzerland. From what I've read here, this is normal as the factory is in the border line between Italy and Switzerland (correct?).

    What I can't understad is the different kind of sizing tags that I've seen.

    Here are some examples:

    1. Here is one shirt which is advertised as 15/38 made in Italy. The sizing tag only says:"Made in Italy 48".
    2. Here is a different shirt from the same seller, again made in Italy. The sizing tag in this case says: "Made in Italy --- 44. 17&1/2".
    3. Here is another one (different seller) which is advertised as 15.5. The seller says that the shirt is Made in Italy and the tag is here.
    4. Mine shirts which are 100% original, their tags say: "Made in Switzerland ---- 38 / 15. Exactly like this one, which is again from the seller.




    Why the first one says 48 instead of 38?
    Am I right to assume that the first and the third are fake? Having as a guide the Made in Switzerland ones that I bought from Madison Av. Only the second and the fourth should be original.
     
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  2. JChance

    JChance Senior member

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    Italian sizing is 10 up from US sizing, so IT 48 is the equivalent of US 38. If the shirt you have fit you perfectly, why not take some measurements and compare it to the ones of the seller, especially the 4th one listed that has the same tag as yours?
     
  3. Panos

    Panos Well-Known Member

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    The UK/US sizes on shirts represents the collar size, in my case this is 15 and the equivalent EU size is 38. That's why on the first case it doesn't really makes sense the 48.


    My problem is not about the size, the problem is that those tags write different things. I was expecting to see in every tag "Made in Switzerland" or "Italy" and then its size. Like on the first, second and 4th shirt.


    All those shirts that I've listed are not on the same size. I am just comparing the tags in order to understand if any of those are fake. Some of them must be, it doesn't really makes sense to have so many different kind of sizing tags. I could understand if there was a difference between the Italian and the Swiss but not three different kinds of sizing tags in the Italian.

    So far I have found three different tags for the Italian.

    The first one, Made in Italy 15/48. What bothers me here is that states 48 instead of 38.
    The second one 17/ 44(1/2). That one looks original to me.
    The third one which states just 39. What bothers me here is that doesn't state the manufacture country and the US size.


    If you are asking me, I would say that the second one is the only original from the Italians. Is there anyone here with an Italian shirt which was bought from a TF boutique in order to see how it should be?
     
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  4. hikari013

    hikari013 Senior member

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    FWIW, I have a shirt that is exactly like #3. All it says is '39'. It was bought in Europe, so it doesn't have the US sizing information on it.

    As for the fit, the European market shirts are usually darted for a slimmer fit. I don't know about the american market ones. Best to compare measurements.

    I don't know what the deal is with the first shirt and its size 48, but the only definitely fake Tom Ford shirts I've seen were these:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150794963689#ht_500wt_1287
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150790490751#ht_500wt_1287
     
  5. DerekS

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    personally, i wouldnt buy TF online. I wear very slim shirts....even have slim fit shirts taken in....but i bought a TF shirt in my size and it was WAY too tight to wear. Before i can buy another id have to try it on in person. YMMV
     
  6. othertravel

    othertravel Senior member

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    There are a few safe sellers for TF shirts. I'd recommend pocketcircle.
     
  7. Stylishmartita

    Stylishmartita Well-Known Member

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    Is this shirt advertised as a 38/15??? Italian firms generally use 38/15 for the shirts collar. You could also find only "48" which is the equivalent of the US "38" for t-shirts and clothing, but the tag "15/48" doesn't make any sense...
     
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    Why do some sellers red out the label and cut the tags and what does this actually mean?
     
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    so they cant be returned to the retail store.
     
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    Thanks :)
     

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