Tom Cruise's scientology indoctrination video

[Saucemaster]

Originally Posted by FLMountainMan

I think the Book of Mormon is pretty silly as well, but most mainstream mormons are great people and they don't have to pay to join.

Much as I love to make fun of various religions and all, this is (in my experience) true. Mormonism is full of completely ridiculous teachings, but when it comes down to it, most Mormons I've known have been genuinely pretty good people.

 

[Quirk]

Originally Posted by kwilkinson

LOL caught red-handed.

Well, don't grip so hard. If your first doesn't turn out to a virgin, you'll be disappointed.

 

[Bogie]

Originally Posted by kwilkinson

You're talking about Christianity in it's Biblical form. I'm speaking realistically. I agree with you Biblically, trust me, I went to Bible College, and think that if this were the reality, the world would be a better place.

But the fact of the matter is that most Christians aren't like Christ whatsoever, so when you are arguing the Christianity that should be taught and I'm arguing the Christianity that is seen in everyday life, that's where we are butting heads.

Aye, I'd agree on that. It sure isn't easy trying to be like Jesus. I mean come on....he's Jesus.

 

[kwilkinson]

Originally Posted by Quirk

Well, don't grip so hard. If your first doesn't turn out to a virgin, you'll be disappointed.

That's just freakin hilarious lol.. I had to read it twice and THEN think about it for a second on top of it before it hit me.

 

[Brian278]

Originally Posted by Saucemaster

Much as I love to make fun of various religions and all, this is (in my experience) true. Mormonism is full of completely ridiculous teachings, but when it comes down to it, most Mormons I've known have been genuinely pretty good people.
Yet another example of why Southpark will stand the test of time for their social commentary. Their Mormonism episode, and specifically the final dialogue from the token Mormon kid spoke to just this point, while ending his speech with a "******* balls". Genius.

 

[jessetk313]

Originally Posted by gdl203

It's pretty impressive that he manages to say absolutely nothing and it takes him 9 minutes to do so

Thats exactly what I was thinking after watching it

 

[GQgeek]

maybe he has a future in politics.

 

[rxcats]

Originally Posted by FLMountainMan

While evangelicals are pretty startling, mainstream Christianity has had an overall positive impact upon society - religious people donate far more than secular people to charity, are more involved in the community, etc. Also, you don't have to pay to attend church/temple/mosque.

You can hate on big bad Christianity all you want, but I seriously doubt that Scientology will ever produce a Martin Luther King, Mother Theresa, Norm Borlaug, etc...


First of all, I don't "hate on big bad Christianity"; some of my best friends are Christian

. I am also not so sure that religious people donate more than secular people, unless you mean donate to their own organized religion/church. Bill Gates considers himself secular (agnostic) and certainly donates a tremendous amount to the truly needy. I don't think that morals or generosity necessarily go hand in hand with belief in God(s) or atheism; some people are good and generous and some people are not.

 

[dusty]

Originally Posted by rxcats

I am also not so sure that religious people donate more than secular people, unless you mean donate to their own organized religion/church.

This is statistically certain (for charity, not churches).

 

[Karo]

That is some fucked up ****.

 

[CTGuy]

Originally Posted by kwilkinson

True. Comparing any religion/cult in more recent times to Christianity/Islam/Far Eastern religions is futile.

Christianity was in its onset thought to just be another cult by most Romans, was it not?

I'm not saying that in 2,000 years Scientology will be what Christianity is today.... I'm just purely saying you can't compare the two with any kind of accuraccy.

That's true and that's why the comparison should not be made. Certainly every major religion has had good and bad people and things happen over the course of 1000+ years so let's call it wash. The thing that creeps me out about scientology is the reports about really violent and subversive cult like behavior where people are bilked out of their money in a fashion that sounds like a ponzi scheme.

 

[rxcats]

Originally Posted by dusty

This is statistically certain (for charity, not churches).
Statistically certain? Whose statistics? I am not trying to argue it; I am really interested. I don't see how one could come up with any accurate or unbiased statistics on something like that. One thing IS for sure, a lot of free thinkers (atheists, agonistics, non-believers), have been among the biggest (no actually THE BIGGEST) philanthropists. http://humaniststudies.org/enews/ind...=252&article=0 It has been my experience that religion (or lack thereof) has little to do with a person's basic moral compass.

 

[T4phage]

This is funny!


This guy's videos rips into everybody!

 

[FLMountainMan]

Originally Posted by rxcats

Statistically certain? Whose statistics? I am not trying to argue it; I am really interested. I don't see how one could come up with any accurate or unbiased statistics on something like that.

One thing IS for sure, a lot of free thinkers (atheists, agonistics, non-believers), have been among the biggest (no actually THE BIGGEST) philanthropists.

http://humaniststudies.org/enews/ind...=252&article=0

It has been my experience that religion (or lack thereof) has little to do with a person's basic moral compass.


Your first sentence states that you are not trying to argue, yet you don't see how anyone could produce unbiased statistics.

Then you assert that atheists are the biggest philanthropists and back it up with a website called "humaniststudies.org"

Pretty funny.

 

[GQgeek]

Originally Posted by CTGuy

That's true and that's why the comparison should not be made. Certainly every major religion has had good and bad people and things happen over the course of 1000+ years so let's call it wash. The thing that creeps me out about scientology is the reports about really violent and subversive cult like behavior where people are bilked out of their money in a fashion that sounds like a ponzi scheme.

Aren't muslims supposed to contribute something like 2% of their income to their mosque? How much do scientologists give?