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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by impolyt_one, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. TACO_FLAVORED_KISSES

    TACO_FLAVORED_KISSES Senior member

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    MDR owners what made you pick it over the DR2010?

    DR2010 owners what made you pick it over the MDR?

    Really torn would love to hear some opinions!
     


  2. Shryke

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    I picked the MDR over the DR2010. I'm coming up to 5 weeks waiting for it to ship.

    I think that the MDR is a more versatile style. The DR is quite unabashedly very much a rocker's jacket. Or at least I'd say that was how it comes across in the UK. The MDR has a touch of that about it, but it also has a pared down aesthetic that'd look great as a day-to-day jacket. That's why I ordered it in grey... it'll be easy to wear with a lot of other colours.
     


  3. Grug

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    DR2010 is a bit too rock'n'roll/gay bikie-ish for my tastes. With my atrocious sense of fashunz it was bound to give actual gay bikies the wrong idea (and that's a BAD idea because, as has been pointed out repeatedly on here, my jeans aren't tight enough to offer protection from intruders).
     
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    Schpacko Senior member

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    Any chance peacoats are being shipped any time soon? I'm freezin here dude.
    i placed my order 18.10.2011
     
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  5. Gatsbee

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    QDR :slayer:
     


  6. mrchariybrown

    mrchariybrown Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    I am a Nigerian cyborg with the strength of a thousand meatheads sent from the future to scam the internetz but malfunctioned so all I want to do is help make jawnz.
     


  7. kvnknrd

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    2 questions

    Is it possible to get bronze hardware on a black QDR

    If so, is it possible to get it coated in black so when it gets nicked over time it reveals the bronze underneath
     


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  9. gdl203

    gdl203 Affiliate Vendor Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    You could take it one step further and paint it haphazardly in white (à la MMM) so when the paint chips it reveals the nicked black coating with the bronze underneath

    :teach:

    Or maybe more ironic, paint the black coating silver or gunmetal so it looks so normal but then chips and then nicks. :headexplodes:
     
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  10. Synthese

    Synthese Darth Millennial Dubiously Honored

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    ^I'm 99% sure that you could do this with enamel from a hobby shop, in case you want to try on something else you have.
     


  11. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    We don't run a zipper shop as if we were baking up macaron flavors here, dudes. The anodized blacks give way to rainbow-y nickel, fwiw.
     


  12. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    BTW we don't get to choose the colors for the base zipper teeth either - still gunmetal (we have this for black, or all colors - the former is black taped from the factory, the latter comes in white tape and we dye the fabric taping to match, which is the reason for the surcharge on colored jackets - it costs $50 to get an industrial small-batch dye job done) or black YKK Japans. Because there are 5 specific, unique pieces that we need for our 'look' - main 2-way #10 (could be #8 if a different brand, like Riri or Lampo) #5 closed tape with a small pull for the pockets, and then #10 (or #8) closed tape with a large pull for the cuffs - it's very specific since they have to match, and no zipper shop we go to has all of the required parts at once, or in quantity. The sizes are flexible only by reducing the large zipper gauge (#5 pocket zipper-sized gauge is kind of small proportionally once you get into the larger sizes, like 50 or above) and then all of these parts and pulls must be the same finish. They offer many finishes so finding a store that has all of these in stock at once is nearly impossible. Imagine trying to have those in 2 finishes, let alone 3 (and we actually use 3 separate colors of the same spec sets). It'd take a warehouse to be able to stock anything resembling a selection of zips that are to be used in clothing production, whereas in reality most of the zipper shops we deal with are like 6 x 10 industrial market suites. Many don't even specialize in metal or YKK zips, so we don't even go to them. There are only a few that do.

    The zippers are still the same story, if we want to change that we have to order a bunch and wait a month or more, maybe 3 months. It's a real headache and not really possible. After import tax in Korea, shipping (you do realize how heavy a bag of metal zippers are right? imagine several bags) and a large broker commission, a 25-piece bag of YKK's we order from Japan is about $250 to us, so a single zipper is $10 and that's what we pay. If we made a real order for something else, like Riri, it'd cost about the same, but we'd have to order a lot. Not only for their requirements, but since putting together a medley of zippers like that takes the month or more to come in, we'd need a large supply of them to keep going. I figure it could cost up to $5000 to even really get started with Riris, just for the leather jackets. We can order single bags of YKK's, but there are no dealers on the ground for Riri - there is a designated Riri dealer for Korea but Armando is in Italy or Switzerland and Riri s.P.A expects everyone to do business with carbon copies, fax machines, and telephones, as if it were still 1989.

    Anyway, same old story, yada yada. I'd like to switch up the zippers and try something new, just really not a possible at the current time though. Maybe I could do a kickstarter thing for getting a bulk of the zippers in, and contributors can get a nice discount voucher or something, like a means of pre-ordering.
     
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  13. gdl203

    gdl203 Affiliate Vendor Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    FWIW, I was jk
     


  14. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    yeah I know. kvnkrnd wasn't. :eek: However, gdl, you are one of those guys who wears a larger size and so the scaling of the zipper combination is that much more pertinent. While I battle this everyday, I've never even thought about what other makers do when it comes to proportioning pre-fab industrial parts like zippers, snaps, etc. I guess nobody makes the range of sizes we do so it's not the same issue. We make stuff from like, size 40EU to size 58EU and beyond - the buckles on the women's DR and men's DR look the same but are actually different pieces, about 2mm different in width. Piecing together hardware for these things is serious business.
     
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    would it be possible to order a toj with IWC big pilots for zipper pulls?
     


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