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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by impolyt_one, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. eternaldrake

    eternaldrake Senior member

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    materials is only a part of it, id imagine any shoemaker that puts out real quality product has quite the labor fee. theres a reason nice boots are as expensive as they are
     
  2. James_M

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    Isn't everything that TOJ manufactures currently, and in the past, a version of something else that already exists? It's not like he's cranking out original designs. Not a criticism just an observation.
     
  3. aether

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    just make some flip flops and call it a day
     
  4. gettoasty

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    +1
     
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    hahahahahaha jesus christ
     
  6. Synthese

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    Cue evil laughter. Seriously though, see how good that suede looks when it's beat up and a little dirty?
     
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  7. Vaio

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  8. cowsareforeating

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    drew sell me something that i can wear and beat up and not worry about and drip of dirty greasy sex on the back of a restaurant kitchen floor. and goes with black... so it can be white.
     
  9. impolyt_one

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    you're right about that general design, that is a good classic boot and the recipe for a good basic.... but sidezips or backzips are probably here to stay if you want to keep wearing boots. They allow for us in cultures where we have to take our shoes on and off to go inside to wear boots more comfortably. If they're done properly (i.e. on the instep and with bit of leather to semi hide the zipper) then they're hardly noticeable anyway. I'd be pretty certain that if I made boots, they'd be sidezipped.
     
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  10. A Fellow Linguist

    A Fellow Linguist Senior member

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    ^ My main problem with zip boots is that the shafts are always too large for my tiny ankles, so I can never get a good fit. For a while I had these really nice Dries jodphur style boots that I had to sell because of the shaft. Still regret that. :(
     
  11. impolyt_one

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    I agree. It would be easier. You can't compare your experiences of buying other brand footwear to what these would be. We would be making these ourselves and know what the inner last sizes out to, all one needs to do is reliably measure their foot on a Brannock. If you have troubles buying footwear online with other brands of shoes (and I do too) - it's because the people who are selling them to you don't really know anything about sizing or the product. You can call Tres Bien Shop and say 'hey I'm a 41 in Common Projects... what size Margielas should I get?' and they will know because they probably own both niche pairs of shoes, but if you're talking about hassles with bigger stores and more unique or disparate products, it's because the people just don't really know and are guessing, mostly. Apples to oranges. If I make the shoes, I know what they measure out to. I will buy a Brannock device and gauge each of the lasts, it's as simple as that.
     
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  12. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    If you're the kind of person so inclined to alter a boot like that - the boot with a zip would be easier to slim the shaft on than a boot without a zip, just saying. Ask your lady friends how this works, they do this to all their boots.
     
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    cyc wid it Senior member

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    Side zips without ridiculous treatments or strangely viking-ship-prow-like upturned toes.
     
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    Seconding (thirding maybe) the jodhpurs. None of that elastic side nonsense. Something with a nice strap, all the ones I've seen look too dainty. And with a last that isn't too sleek.
     
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  15. impolyt_one

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    The 2010 DR and the Quilted DR, and then the obvious military jackets - those are my out and out ripoffs of classics (but try the originals, and see where they stand next to mine) - and then the rest are classical form factors done from scratch by me. That is what fashion design is, though. I don't go too crazy with the aesthetic by choice*, and TOJ doesn't have runway shows with outlandish styling, but take away those parts and you will see that Rick Owens makes MA-1s, basketball shorts, Nike AF1's, bomber and moto style leather jackets, etc. Raf Simons makes MA-1's, shirts and knits, trousers, derbies. There are motifs, there are foundations, the general game is the same though.

    * I want people to be able to wear my clothes longer than a season or two, and to me, the best way to do that is by making something that is not going to look dated in 3 years. I mentioned RO because the very nature of that design aesthetic is irrelevant. I live in a city where people dress the way you guys will in two or three years, and I can say that the crystal ball holds no Rick Owens in your future.

    I think possibly the idea of fashion design is misunderstood here... it's not sitting in a white atelier behind an easel, drawing fashion plates all day, lol
     
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  16. A Fellow Linguist

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    I had no idea that something like this was possible. This is a huge revelation for me!!!
     
  17. GBear

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    I hope Charly is ready for a crapload of emails with pictures of people's feet. :foo:
     
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  18. gettoasty

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    would be interested to hear more about this, just curiosity
     
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  19. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    You guys want to know what you're gonna look like in two years, you mean?
     
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  20. WhoKnewI

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    I miss Japan.

    Excited to see the boots drew.
     
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