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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by impolyt_one, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    Everybody's my auditor I guess man. I shouldn't have to give anyone that information, because nobody else in my business would. This is beyond perversion, really.
     
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  2. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    Anyway, in other news -

    MDR
    2010 DR
    QDR

    2011 Moto

    Collared Moto

    A-2 Bomber
    A-1 Bomber
    CWU-45 Bomber (with collar or ribbed collarband)

    ^ These are available as always

    Fishtail
    Peacoat
    Duffle

    ^These are available, soft launch I guess. The Fish and the Peacoat look like last years with minimal changes. The Duffle is how I have described previously. I will get some proper samples made up later but we are busy so those can't be made right now, this minute.


    I am starting the last call on TOJ1's. I don't have a deadline date but if you want one, get your order in, because once that peters out I will cut them off.
     
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    laughter95 Senior member

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    the transparency and disclosure is appreciated in that it helps us to enjoy the product even better.

    however, you should present these facts/figures with pride, and not out of annoyance.

    i'm looking forward to receiving the a-2 bomber more, knowing this background.
     
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  4. NaTionS

    NaTionS Senior member

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    Once the TOJ1s are done, will they be replaced by another, updated version of the varsity/baseball jacket?
     
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    Synthese Darth Millennial Dubiously Honored Moderator

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    What? Pretty sure that me, bows, and uncontrol all have completely different haircuts at this point.

    Drew, and everyone - please, can we just stop talking about this and move on? I tried ignoring woodyear but it didn't work, because every single person was posting inane bullshit about shearling.

    I want to see: collared moto in whiskey from whoever bought one (especially since I opted out and went with a vtg)
    more colored double riders

    more jackets that are not black or brown.

    Deliver!
     
  6. Carpenoctem

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    http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/product-detail.php?id=74

    Game.set.match. Better quality sheepskin and finished on the lesther side (puts to bed your only real excuse), far better construction (sheepskin reinforced with fqhh at seams and wear points) made with unionized labor in scotland which costs a fuckton more than the "3 figures" a day you pay your people (since you said they complete roughly one jacket per day and you pay them per jacket), at a fraction of the price (550 pounds). Dont try the bs "big mac costs less than a kobe burger" line because aeros a small operation like you, making mtm clothing over the internet, with better materials and construction than you.

    Admittedly your jackets have a better cut and look more stylish but it smacks of arrogance when you talk down on a company whos product is better than yours. It would be like the ceo of Invicta talking down on Rolex for being too old-manish, sure invictas sometimes look pretty stylish and can be had for a great bargain, but rolex is rolex despite what the rollie haters say.

    Despite your misinformation, Aero leather is regarded as the epitome in quality, and the finest leather jacket producer in the world for the past century, selling jackets on a forum for 2 years doesnt put you in that league bud, im sorry to say. I can sell my barnstormer 25 years from now and get more than what i paid for it, literally (ebay it) because aero is that collectible, and for good reason, they dont wear out they simply get better with age. 25 years from now all of our tojs will be either trashed or at some goodwill for 3 for $10. Proof is in the pudding,

    Still love ya tho.





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    You're trying to save face but you've been posting the same thing over and over and no one cared then either.
     
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  8. Carpenoctem

    Carpenoctem Well-Known Member

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    Save face? Its math. 50 squares at $14 a piece (weirdly high unreasonable pricing) is 800. Throw in another 200 for lambskin and zippers etc (lol yeah right) 1k. Pay your guy $500 to make it ( im sure theyre paid at least $60 an hour, i mean what korean factory worker isnt?) another 200 for shipping and assorted expenses (shippings very expensive in that part of the world). Okay, 1700 for this insanely irresponsibly produced jacket, you need another $1300 per jacket on top of that as your profit margin? You must be rollin in it then, sheesh taking literally twice the total cost of a regular leather for your profit....very generous of you.

    Get real.
     
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    CanuckBassist Senior member

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    If that's the profit margin that Drew wants in exchange for the work required to design and make a shearling piece, then that's what it'll cost. You can have your own opinions of how much profit a business should get for its work, but it's really not up to you in the end now, is it?
     
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    impolyt_one Senior member

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    lol. Woodyear, only one can win.... the only way we can prove who is winner is by you starting your own leather jacket brand.
     
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    I can't see that working out too well if he can't even multiply 50 by 14 correctly.
     
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    Razele Senior member

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    Seriously just GTFO woodyear, go kop your shearling from Aero, IDK why you haven't already

    You cant force someone to do something at a loss, if he doesnt want to do it, its not going to happen, end of story, he wants to use that particular leather for whatever reasons.

    What does he have to gain from lying to you?? A lost sale????

    Seriously these e-retards :facepalm:
     
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    You forgot to throw in another $800 to cover for the possibility that a mistake happens in production, and the entire jacket is trashed. Then Drew would get $500 (assuming that other costs dont come up), which is reasonable. The dude would still have to pay for other things (Dan and Charly don't work for free), and keep up with his own bills and taxes.
     
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  14. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    man, I am glad I am not the only person in here who can add 1+1.
     
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    impolyt_one Senior member

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    Also, Woodyear, know that when you do open your own business or try to do some work, I will come and shit on your carpet until you can no longer work. Deal?
     
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    Lol i might take you up on that my friend, ive actually always wanted to. Maybe if this music thing takes off Ill have the cash to fuck with that. Youre an inspiring dude, fuckin wind beneath my wings man.

    Sorry bro, def dont wanna rain on your parade but i cant not call bs when i see it.

    Ohhh excuse me, correction 50x14 is 700, excuse my error. Meaning the total cost of insanely irresponsibly produced hypothetical jacket is 1600 dollars, bringing your hypothetical profit to $1400.

    On that note im done shitting on your carpet, i wont talk about it anymore.
     
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  17. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    word from the wise - don't cost your product the way you've suggested to me, you will go out of business in 3 months. Also, here's another tip - you can't name your own price on commodities. :teach:
     
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  18. aaaeeeiiiooouuu

    aaaeeeiiiooouuu Senior member

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    in the interest of the common good can we all just agree to not respond to anything woodyear says?

    he has proven himself to be, time and time again, a sniveling know-it-all who doesn't warrant level-headed discourse, yet people keep responding to him and fanning the flames...
     
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  19. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    I am really serious though, if you feel you can start your own leather jacket brand, then I welcome the competition. Everybody who has come and gone when it has been within the TOJ radar (the brands I'm referring to didn't make a splash here but got a bit of notice on hypebeast) usually ended up trying to make varsity jackets, like House of Billiam, a couple others, I can't remember their names. I am driving an incredible deal and getting underpaid for it by my own choice, and that how it has been since the beginning, so I do challenge anyone to come with their brand and see what you can make, for what price.

    If you go through all that to find out you can only make leather jackets to sell at $1500, then I'll make a $1500 jacket so that our price tags are even, how does that sound?
     
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  20. omgcookielol

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    This thread needs more murdered out a2 fitpics. There are only two black a2s in the gallery, and imo, they're super awkward-looking on that dude. :fu:

    Really dumb question incoming: Do you get the ribbed/quilted leather effect from stitching, or are they pressed on the leather?
     
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