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TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by impolyt_one, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. thecentennial

    thecentennial Senior member

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    Just acquired a suede T1 - can I just hit it with Saphir suede protector?
     
  2. tunneler

    tunneler Well-Known Member

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    What color?
     
  3. thecentennial

    thecentennial Senior member

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    Its a medium brown. Assume it would be a few shades darker after treatment.

    Super soft suede. Nappa-like in texture.
     
  4. tunneler

    tunneler Well-Known Member

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    Reason I ask is that I'm about to place an order for a T-1. On the fence between steel blue and "chestnut" which sounds similar to your medium brown. If you have a chance in the next day or two, would you be able to take a pic of your jacket and post it here? I couldn't find any images of either leather color online.

    Sorry I don't have advice on treating the suede, but I'm sure someone else knows.
     
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  5. noobedloser

    noobedloser Senior member

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  6. noobedloser

    noobedloser Senior member

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    Edit: double post myb
     
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  7. noobedloser

    noobedloser Senior member

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    I'm stupid for tripling posting, my bad again
     
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  8. althanis

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    Hi guys, I was thinking of ordering a 2011 Moto (I'm fine with the wait), and was wondering if there's any resource that explains the pros and cons of some of the leathers? I saw the guide to the colors, which speaks briefly about the properties of some of them, but I'm sure you guys know more.

    It'll be my first, and probably only, leather jacket, and I was leaning toward a medium brown; but might be convinced otherwise if there was a compelling reason. Should I go with calf, horse, lamb? I don't want something too fragile that I have to worry about it all the time, but I also won't be riding in it so it doesn't have to be the toughest thing ever.
     
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  10. tunneler

    tunneler Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, but that first jacket is muted sky blue, a suede not offered anymore. I'm looking for steel blue. The second jacket is a photoshop. Those swatches posted on the tumblr are so tiny.

    I know it's annoying when people clog up the thread with questions that could be answered with a bit of searching, but I really have combed over it thoroughly as well as through toj-gallery and Google images, and there are no pictures of jackets in these leathers.
     
  11. Stewbone

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    Hey alhanis, you sound like me when I was making my first and only toj purchase. As someone else mentioned, this topic has been discussed many times in the past. Regardless, I have owned a calf 2011 moto for close to a year now and I feel I can contribute to the growing archived discussion.

    I've always felt that lamb attracted people that craved instant gratification as it looks great right out of the box. Lamb is per se for the guy who chooses to fly across country instead of taking the train, where saving time is valued above experience. Calf on the other hand is a labor of love as it comes out of the box like a homosexual coming out in a family of bodybuilders. Hesitant maybe even self-conscious that it was not gifted with the same valued attributes that the lamb initially has. But let me tell you alhanis, when choosing calf, you are choosing the fact that the journey is the destination. While foregoing the initial pleasure of day one wearability you are adopting a choice that will surely pay dividends in the future. You see, I don't understand why men insist on 2001 vintage wines and 18 year old whiskey but then demand an ageless jacket. But talking aside, below are just two quick pictures at how my simple calf has morphed over the time I've been with it.

    Growing texture along the spine:
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    Jacket has changed from stiff to pliable:
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    As an aside, this post is not to bash lamb, only to support the fact that calf does not get the attention it deserves.
     
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  12. Ironist

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    wtf? :confused:
     
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  13. noobedloser

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    You are right about the light blue being the muted sky blue. I haven't found anything either as I kept searching. I think if you emailed them it wouldn't hurt because it does seem like there are no photos of it. Maybe there aren't any steel blue jackets or someone who has it, hasn't posted a pic of it yet.
     
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  14. iamacyborg

    iamacyborg Senior member

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    Nothing to see there, just casual homophobia.
     
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    Do........do you have something you want to tell us?
     
  16. masshi

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    lol that wasn't homophobic

    it was a (funny) analogy that makes reference to calf and lamb being the same (they're both quality materials) even if only the latter is the one that garners the most 'acceptance' (going off of how lamb is usually the go-to recommendation)

    if there were any slights being made it was actually against bodybuilders, going off the stereotype that they're super manly meatheads who don't stand for homosexuality despite a lot of the bodybuilding community actually being gay themselves


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    I'd also recommend calf since whenever I imagine myself touching a motorcycle jacket (even if only a fashunz jacket) I expect something tough and not floppy (not to make a slight against the lamb or anything)

    also like stewbone said the 'journey' of breaking in a calf jacket is really appealing to me

    but I've never handled any toj before so idk take with salt
     
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  17. Distorbiant

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    shouldn't have said anything, my bad.
     
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  18. johanm

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    The black goat is not crispy and I wouldn't call it heavily textured. It's quite soft and has a grain pattern, but it's not pebbled (i.e. the texture is not raised).

    Personally based on owning 1 black goat and 2 black lamb jackets (one thick and one thin), I'd recommend the goat. It performs better and is all around more luxurious and expensive feeling than the lamb. I actually think the "luxe" aspect of the lamb is way overrated. It performs well, but it's much harder than the lamb leathers offered by Loro Piana, Cucinelli, RLPL, etc. It's certainly not going to lead to any "fondling" by "strange women" unless they've never stepped foot into a high end department store.
     
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  19. 5354

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    didn't you make sizing recommendations before when you totally screwed urs up?

    edit: shitty spelling and grammar
     
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  20. Death24xASecond

    Death24xASecond Senior member

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    Ooh, a contrarian view. Personally, having heard so much about TOJ's lamb, I do have somewhat high expectations. I've handled leather garments from RLPL and Rag & Bone (I know, not in the same bracket), and I'm kind of hoping that the TOJ will be at least in the middle, leaning toward RLPL. After all, there is that Tom Ford/TOJ leather story circulated amongst these parts...
     
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