TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

[smashwindow]

damn how thick are they!

 

[impolyt_one]

They are really noticeably thick and dished, I wore it outside yesterday and I think I saw a couple normal people do double takes. I will get a pic of them down the row in a bit once my phone charges. It's really apparent how nice these buttons are when you see them laced up in a row.

I think the driving point I really wanted to make with this shirt, and I think it's now made, is that shirts you guys are familiar with basically come in two tiers - there's the mass produced things like BoO and their subsequent followers, and even some nicer machine-made things like Black Fleece where they actually try for some things like MOP buttons and single needle, Black Fleece even has a faux hand-attached cuff effect done on machine - but then if you step up and commit to making a shirt with handwork, not cutting corners, not assigning machines to do things because it's cheaper - you're in a different echelon, one that can't be imitated without really coming with the goods. For casual shirts this barely exists, especially in the SW+D conscious. The labor cost is almost 10x as much but it's worth it. It just doesn't get much better than this.

 

[sartbaeklv]

fabric looks like it's going to make one natty collar roll. can't wait to see the finished result
are these oxfords are going to be mtm?

 

[buran]



fabric looks like it's going to make one natty collar roll. can't wait to see the finished result
are these oxfords are going to be mtm?

We can hope:

Oh, and we'll continue to use the same size chart, but with v2, I'm open to allowing length changes. That suits most people. I really like the TOJ shirt block, I just wish I could push the quality way up to untouchable status - and now, that's what I am going to attempt to do.
If there's a genuine need for MTM and people can handle the responsibility of measuring themselves, I can consider that too. Part of it being the ultimate shirt means it needs to fit properly too, obviously. Since it's mostly a casual shirt, we may only need basic measurements, like 4 or 5.

 

[ambivalence]

roughly how much will that oxford cost?

 

[VLSI]



roughly how much will that oxford cost?

400 give or take

 

[hhenryhhh]

So happy about normal looking pockets. I always thought a simple horizontal stitch or maybe a shallow v was more than sufficient.

 

[emilo]



I always thought a simple horizontal stitch or maybe a shallow v was more than sufficient.

With shirts as with girls.

 

[impolyt_one]



400 give or take

Didn't I just recently make an elaborate, over the top video explaining that it's not going to be $400?!?!

Somebody asked how thick the buttons are, here's a little demo:

(disregard vegetable soup splatter stain in this pic )

 

[impolyt_one]

up the line

 

[impolyt_one]

'merica! This shirt is nice enough to wear to a $50,000 a plate fundraiser.

 

[lesamourai]

Man, good thing the church next door woke me up this morning.

 

[VLSI]

Why'd you opt against crow foot stitch on the buttons? Pocket shape looks nice. Are there no buttons on that collar?

 

[impolyt_one]



It's very normal looking this time. I wanted to go with a completely non-stylized classic oxford shirt style in v2, and focus on making each major part (fabric, buttons, construction) better than what one normally sees in an oxford.
button snapshot:

Why'd you opt against crow foot stitch on the buttons? Pocket shape looks nice. Are there no buttons on that collar?

check your eyes, my friend. Also, as I said before, the collar wasn't made properly, the shape is right but they forgot to make it button down. I might sew a couple random buttons on just to show what the roll will be like.

 

[VLSI]

Doh I'll just blame your camera then. Any idea how much longer until they're ready for order?