Thanks. I do like the motos, but the fact that I already have an armored moto (that I frequently wear with a collared shirt) is one of the main things pushing me towards the MDR. Seems hard to justify having leather jacket #2 be a trimmer cut version of jacket #1. I highly doubt that I would be trying to wear it to the office on one of the 4 mandatory biz-cas days of the week so that's not really at issue. The main issue for me is probably working with the black. I think the MDR looks best in black (except maybe some awesome whiskey) but its hard to conceptualize that in with the fact that I have worn very little black aside from dress shoes in the last couple of years. Is there a big durability difference between lamb and calf? I know calf is a lot tougher but what how they handle getting spilled/rained on? From some posts in this thread, it sounds like lamb doesn't like getting wet all that much while calf doesn't really care.