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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by impolyt_one, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    nah, the graph is deeper and I have doubts many know all of the magazines listed and therefore it'd be hard to really map it out better than I have it down now. You can make your own from scratch if you want it to be simpler, but the one I put above is both inclusive and really quite simple if you take it an entity at a time, and it's very textbook and well thought-out, actually. There's a nice logical relationship in the placement of everything. That's why I stole this from the fashion school. :eek:
     


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    brad-t Bae Blade

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    I don't think it's fair to classify me as onii-kei or gal-o, at least not anymore. I identify more with the taupe and grey sections. Maybe my hair is the only thing left haha. But really cool and interesting diagrams.
     


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    dibango Senior member

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    Guys, less drama and jp infographics. More fit pics and new shit.
     
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    impolyt_one Senior member

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    I knew you would say this, and anybody else is going to have a kneejerk reaction as part of the Western individualist mentality - and that's why I plotted your purple shape on the matrix delving slightly into Mens Non-kei and a touch of Mode, but you are still very squarely within what is the Onii-kei category as a foundation. You have the hair, you wear makeup, and the general silhouettes, textures, some of the brands (and brands are important here, but not THAT important - things can be substituted to achieve the final look, which is the takeaway here) - your effect is almost 100% Onii-kei/Gal-o. I don't know what to tell you, your look is rooted upon principles that are very much from the Onii-kei box there. You could go without the hair or makeup, but you'd still be in that box. Also, as I have graphed, pretty much everyone else starts with a foundation with something outside of that.
     
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    impolyt_one Senior member

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    You don't realize how locked down that graph is. It basically sums up everyone who has ever posted to a men's fashion messageboard and actually tried to be stylish. It's your world, in 640 x 480.
     


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    notwithit Pullup laureate

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    I just wanna end up somewhere in the sex-worker part of the graph.
     


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    brad-t Bae Blade

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    Was on my phone and didn't realize the lines in totality -- I would say that the purple line for me is probably correct, as long as we leave men's egg out of it :eek:
     


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    impolyt_one Senior member

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    also, the taupe Mode area is focused on the highest end fashions, you are not really Mode. You are kind of within the grey Mens Non-kei in terms of the pricepoints and brands you associate with, I know you like Kiryuyrik, et al - those are Mens Non-kei basically, fashion produced in collections, but not walked, at least outside of Tokyo. Mode is Raf Simons, Rick Owens, Dior Homme, YSL - the highest end menswear, which gets walked in Europe.

    To give you another idea - RegisDB9, NAMOR, other styleforum posters - these guys are actually buying brands within the grey Mode area, but they are not mode either. They have no real awareness of the runway show concept, of a brand's purpose or aesthetic, and they end up buying basics and carryover generics. If they had more 'pieces' and put together their outfits based on philosophies other than 'what color do I match with my shoes?' then they might be more mode.

    tween_spirit is on a line that starts somewhere at Cool Trans and ends up in Mens Non-kei

    Ivwri is basically a dot that doesn't travel far from Vogue Hommes Japan, or WMD

    zissou is the polar opposite and a dot somewherevery close to Free and Easy

    Phat Guido (and as is referenced by his name) - purely Ita-oya-kei

    most of the people posting in this thread - they float between Mens Non-kei, dabble in mode, usually don't do much in Street-kei unless they're only around for the varsity jacket

    and so on, and so on
     


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    impolyt_one Senior member

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    you are the polar opposite of this.
     


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    Your world can be categorized in terms of jp magazines?
     


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    Where would BerlinReport fit into, although he hasn't posted fit in SF for almost a year now?
     


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    impolyt_one Senior member

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    yes, and your style too. Everybody on styleforum, superfuture, stylezeitgeist - they can be plotted within this map, pretty much to a tee, there's a place for everybody. Sadly, no 'Abacro-kei' (Abercrombie and Fitch)
     


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    Berlin Report is at the bottom area of 'Ita-oya-kei' - Uomo, LEON, Oceans, Men's Club. Might give him the benefit of the doubt and give him a tiny wedge of Mode, but from what I remember of him, that really wasn't his game. He was very much a block within the bottom of the grey box.
     


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    notwithit Pullup laureate

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    :confused:

    I should've figured as much.

    Something to shoot for, I guess.
     


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    I was gonna say that should be in RFT, but I see it's there too with no response yet It seems pretty spot on, and I'm interested to see other people's thoughts. I think I see where my broke ass who doesn't really have a clue about fashion fits on that graph lol.
     


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