TOJ - updates on the debacle, complaints, news about other ventures, whatever.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by impolyt_one, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. wj4

    wj4 Senior member

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    ^That's how it fit me. I was able to button it up, but not enough to layer under. Being in SoCal, I didn't need to.

    The fit looks good to me.
     
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    Some pics of my 2011 moto in black lamb. I'm 5'6" 136lbs and it's a stock 44.
     
  3. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    We don't send them out looking like that as new. There are occasional manufacturing marks or natural irregularities in leather, but nothing to that extent at all.

    I don't really think I need to be a part of this dispute otherwise, this is a B+S issue; I'd rather that OP not have even posted it in the thread, lest it be misread by someone new to the discussion and be misled. If I don't sell it to you, then I don't really have anything to do with it. Used TOJ is used.


    That said, I have two minds about it:
    -Crump's Brother takes back the jacket and sells it to someone else - Crump will take a financial hit on the shipping.

    or:


    -OP gets over it, it's a used jacket and things like this happen. Perfection is not to be expected from delicate leather goods if you're buying them secondhand from unknown sources. If you want that kind of perfection or the recourse involved, you should buy the items from me directly. Individual sellers are selling USED goods. In the good old days, 'used' really meant someone made use of it, and deterioration or damage may be part of the package. If you guys ever buy from yahoo!JP, there is a tagline that everybody uses, it says this in Japlish at the end of the auction descriptions - "no claim, no return" - that means you buy based on the pics and the description, and you live with it or sell it on - the caveat being that you're buying an item with no guarantee, from a private individual. That is it.
    To me, the damage looks microscopic and doesn't affect the function or wearability of the jacket, so I'd leave it be and save the expense and hassle. OP is also unlikely to find a varsity that fits him better, despite what he thinks from his initial fit. That's how it's supposed to fit, it has 3oz polyfill in it. If it were skintight, that would be a problem.
     
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  4. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    Also, where are you guys getting these baseball jackets from? lol
     
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    drmmr Senior member

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    I believe cpolo got his bball from wj4.
     
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    I did a quick search and saw something Drew wrote about if he got a whiskey calfskin moto, he would attempt at a soak and that it shouldn't destroy the leather. I think I will be attempting this tonight and will update with pictures.
     
  7. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    There is no point of soaking the calfskin, man. It will only hurt it from the interior and not show any visible difference on the outside.
     
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    GBear why do you want to soak it, if you don't mind my asking?

     
  9. wj4

    wj4 Senior member

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    Knock offs from China. Temple of Jonz is across the street from the bootleg Ikea.
     
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    hey guys.. quick sizing question..
    38.5" chest
    17.5" shoulders
    what size toj1 should i be after?
     
  11. impolyt_one

    impolyt_one Senior member

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    Shouldn't it be the Temple of Jians? Temple of Zhans?
     
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    I suggest 50 - lengthened or shortened depending on how tall you are

     
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    If you want a tighter fit, go with a stock 48 with 44-46 lengths; if you want a more relaxed fit, go with a stock 50 with 44-46 lengths

     
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    Def in the market for another TOJ, but been waffling over and over about which one to get. Any help?

    + Already have a brown lamb collard moto.
    + Want a rider type jacket (moto / DR) (convert cuffs are a must)
    + Really curious about calf, but not sure.
    + If I'm going calf, I figure I'll wait it out for an interesting color.
    + Is it too much to have 2 TOJs in a brown-type color, is that overkill?

    Anyone have had both the lamb and calf, and can tell me which one they like better? I know the calf is a little heavier and not as soft, but more durable, etc, but if you have had both, which one do you prefer?
     
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