Toe taps

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  1. alflauren

    alflauren Senior member

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    Never, though for purely asthetic reasons. I do have a few pair of Greens and Westons that have metal toe plates and they are noisy as hell.

    I'd rather deal with the noise than having worn-down toes. Unfortunately, that's the first (and only) thing that ever really wears down on my shoes.
     


  2. grimslade

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    The toes of my soles just don't wear down. Are others walking around tip toe or something?
     


  3. Tomasso

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    What type of style are you showing by wearing shoe taps/plates?

    Who sees the bottom of my shoes?
     


  4. rgpuppy

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    NEVER...when i was a kid i had taps put on my penny loafers and made more noise than my sister practicing for her tap dance recital.

    I do have all my shoes fitted with engllish heels (the back half is rubber set into the leather) as I wear heels down very quickly.
     


  5. Englandmj7

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    How many pairs of shoes do you rotate? I only have about 7 and even with wearing them one day a week the toe of my shoes starts to wear away insanely fast; the same goes for the outside corner of my heel.....it may also depend on your body weight. Either way, plastic toe taps can be purchased for $2 a pack (2 toe taps, 2 heel taps and nails) at most Walgreens/Longs Drugs, etc. etc. The ones I always buy are Kiwis. They already come with the staple attached and adhesive underneath; all the have to do is hammer in the staple/nails and you're set. It takes me about 1 minute per shoe to remove old ones and put on new ones and I usually get 15-20 wears before replacement. Unless you wear your shoes once every two months, it is stupid not to put on plastic toe taps. They are noiseless, cheap, and they work.....

    As far as not being able to find metal toe taps goes, I found a cobbler down the street from me who has them, but I understand it is usually very difficult. Buy some online and have the cobbler do it......
     


  6. skalogre

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    How many pairs of shoes do you rotate? I only have about 7 and even with wearing them one day a week the toe of my shoes starts to wear away insanely fast; the same goes for the outside corner of my heel.....it may also depend on your body weight. Either way, plastic toe taps can be purchased for $2 a pack (2 toe taps, 2 heel taps and nails) at most Walgreens/Longs Drugs, etc. etc. The ones I always buy are Kiwis. They already come with the staple attached and adhesive underneath; all the have to do is hammer in the staple/nails and you're set. It takes me about 1 minute per shoe to remove old ones and put on new ones and I usually get 15-20 wears before replacement. Unless you wear your shoes once every two months, it is stupid not to put on plastic toe taps. They are noiseless, cheap, and they work.....

    As far as not being able to find metal toe taps goes, I found a cobbler down the street from me who has them, but I understand it is usually very difficult. Buy some online and have the cobbler do it......



    How thick are those Kiwi taps exactly? I may need to look in to them.
     


  7. lawyerdad

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    How many pairs of shoes do you rotate? I only have about 7 and even with wearing them one day a week the toe of my shoes starts to wear away insanely fast; the same goes for the outside corner of my heel.....it may also depend on your body weight. Either way, plastic toe taps can be purchased for $2 a pack (2 toe taps, 2 heel taps and nails) at most Walgreens/Longs Drugs, etc. etc. The ones I always buy are Kiwis. They already come with the staple attached and adhesive underneath; all the have to do is hammer in the staple/nails and you're set. It takes me about 1 minute per shoe to remove old ones and put on new ones and I usually get 15-20 wears before replacement. Unless you wear your shoes once every two months, it is stupid not to put on plastic toe taps. They are noiseless, cheap, and they work.....

    As far as not being able to find metal toe taps goes, I found a cobbler down the street from me who has them, but I understand it is usually very difficult. Buy some online and have the cobbler do it......

    Well, I disagree with the "it's stupid" part. Whether they're silent probably depends on your gait and the surfaces you're walking on. By altering the bottom surface of the shoe, you're necessarily altering a bit how your foot is going to fall when you walk. That may or may not be a good thing, but I'm not certain it's such a universal, unalloyed good that it must be "stupid" to eschew it. Plus, on my EG's or other really nice shoes, I don't like them for aesthetic reasons. I don't spend a lot of time staring at the soles of my shoes, but I spend enough time sitting in various positions during the course of a typical day that I may find myself viewing, or exposing to others, either a bottom or profile view of my shoe. With my nicer shoes, I like the sleekness of the profile and also find a certain elegance in the flat patina of a worn leather sole. Taps destroy -- or ruin, as Manton might say -- those aesthetics.
    Then again, I'm fortunate enough to have a gait or a build or whatever that leads the soles of my shoes to wear fairly evenly. If that were not the case, I might be more inclined to use taps.
     


  8. gdl203

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    Well, I disagree with the "it's stupid" part.
    Ditto

    on my EG's or other really nice shoes, I don't like them for aesthetic reasons. I don't spend a lot of time staring at the soles of my shoes, but I spend enough time sitting in various positions during the course of a typical day that I may find myself viewing, or exposing to others, either a bottom or profile view of my shoe. With my nicer shoes, I like the sleekness of the profile and also find a certain elegance in the flat patina of a worn leather sole.
    Ditto

    Then again, I'm fortunate enough to have a gait or a build or whatever that leads the soles of my shoes to wear fairly evenly. If that were not the case, I might be more inclined to use taps.
    I probably still wouldn't
     


  9. kolecho

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    In an ideal world, people would walk their soles through evenly, right in the centre of the sole. But people walk differently and according to their individual walking pattern, put different stress at different sections of the soles. Some people have no problems with excessive wear of the tips, others do, particular if the shoes are pointed and elongated.

    I ruin my toes in next to no time and, even as a child, had metal toe pieces nailed on. About six or seven years ago, I discovered toe pieces that were actually set into the sole. I believe that is the best way to protect the tips if you wear the toes hard. J M Weston and the German firm of Dinkelacker produce some of their heavier designs with these set-in toe pieces as part of the specifications. Otherwise you'll have to find a cobbler who can fit them. It's quite a delicate job and very few still can do it. [​IMG]

    Second best solution are nailed on toe protectors in either metal or plastic. Third is an additional row of nails in the toe area. (I ruin these almost as fast as if they were not there.) But you might not be as hard on your toes as I am.

    Toe pieces (even metal ones) don't make any excessive noise; metal heals make one hell of a noise. (I once tried them and had them removed a week or so later.)

    Ultimately it all depends on your particular walking pattern.



    This is a great solution. What does a flush metal toeplate pictured look like from the side?
     


  10. retronotmetro

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    Depending on the shoe, I can wear through the tips of a sole and into the welt in several months of once-per-week wear. Given the cost of refurbishing a pair of EGs or even C&Js, the economical choices are to choose between taps or cheaper shoes. I pick the taps.
     


  11. kitonbrioni

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    The plastic ones have always worked well for me and I have them on about half my shoes and boots with leather soles.
     


  12. damonallan

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    Different types of caps my friends.

    You can get the metal or compressed rubber ones. I choose the latter to cut down on noise and skating.
     


  13. raley

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    Depending on the shoe, I can wear through the tips of a sole and into the welt in several months of once-per-week wear. Given the cost of refurbishing a pair of EGs or even C&Js, the economical choices are to choose between taps or cheaper shoes. I pick the taps.

    What? This seems insane to me? Are you just heavy-footed or what? Or are the soles of EG's and the like just more fragile?
     


  14. j

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    What? This seems insane to me? Are you just heavy-footed or what? Or are the soles of EG's and the like just more fragile?
    I think the wear on the toes has mostly to do with a person's walk and the way he puts pressure on his foot. Try walking without bending your toes, and then try walking as if you were trying to flick the surface you're walking on behind you. Most people are somewhere in between these extremes. Toward the latter I imagine are the people who wear down the toes of their shoes fastest. I also have the feeling they may be wearing their shoes slightly too long, as when I wear a slightly long pair of shoes I notice a tendency to ding up the toes.
     


  15. grimslade

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    How many pairs of shoes do you rotate? I only have about 7 and even with wearing them one day a week the toe of my shoes starts to wear away insanely fast; the same goes for the outside corner of my heel.........


    I rotate through perhaps half a dozen. On average, my shoes get worn once a week, I'd say. The outside of my heels wears faster than any other part of my soles. After that, it's the center of the sole, under the balls of my feet. I am not lightweight, although I do have big feet (so mass is distributed over a bigger area...).

    Digression: Was in a cordwainer's shop in Florence last week, looking at the various shoes they made there. I asked the old woman behind the desk whether they had a particular shoe in my size. The woman looked over the counter at my feet (I was in sandals) and told me, a little dismissively, that they did not carry any shoes large enough for my feet (i'm an 11 EEE, generally). The cordwainer himself came out and said he could make any of his regular models for me for 250-300 euros and mail them to the States, but I didn't pull the trigger.

    Back to the matter at hand though, I just don't walk in a way that the toes of my soles see serious wear. And I'd be concerned that heel taps would affect the "balance" of the shoe. That, and replacing taps monthly seems tedious.
     


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