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To dimple or not dimple

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by javyn, Jun 8, 2006.

  1. javyn

    javyn Senior member

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    I've noticed that hardly anyone I see dimples their ties, especially while wearing a wider, Windsor knot. I love the way the dimple looks and do it to all my knots, even on the bad days where I can't get it right in the middle and it ends up being on one side or the other. (Sometimes the sloppiness seems to work somehow too, so I leave it.)

    What do you all prefer, especially with the full Windsor?
     
  2. Kent Wang

    Kent Wang Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    A dimple also helps to arch the tie properly.
     
  3. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    what does "forward thrust" mean?
     
  4. javyn

    javyn Senior member

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    What do you think about the thrust/inverted dimple. I think it looks kinda crappy, but it seems to be the most popular way.

    Instead of dimpling the bottom of the knot, poofing it outward is what I meant by 'thrust' sorry.
     
  5. Renault78law

    Renault78law Senior member

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    What do you think about the thrust/inverted dimple. I think it looks kinda crappy, but it seems to be the most popular way.

    Instead of dimpling the bottom of the knot, poofing it outward is what I meant by 'thrust' sorry.

    you mean double dimple?
    [​IMG]
     
  6. LabelKing

    LabelKing Senior member

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    It seems to me it's because most people's tie knots are too limp. This is a sort of thrust: [​IMG]
     
  7. javyn

    javyn Senior member

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    Like the middle of that double dimple, but with no dimples at all. Just convex.
     
  8. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    you mean double dimple?
    [​IMG]


    If this is what was meant by "thrust", I would have to change my answer to that one. I don't like my dimple to be centered and I like assymetry, so I always form the dimple on one side or the other (but only rarely both like that picture)
     
  9. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Like the middle of that double dimple, but with no dimples at all. Just convex.

    wow - I'm completely lost. I have no idea what you mean now
     
  10. thinman

    thinman Senior member

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    I always dimple, but I'm going to start experimenting with the pleated look ("double dimple") shown by Renault78law with some of my lighter-weight ties.
     
  11. JLibourel

    JLibourel Senior member

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    I sorta thought double-dimpling was definitely substandard--a real sartorial faux pas--although I have noticed the some of my ties seem to have a real propensity for double-dimpling. I can remember that when I met Andy Gilchrist for lunch, I was very embarrassed that my necktie was double-dimpled.
     
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  13. javyn

    javyn Senior member

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    Hey gdl203, imagine tying one with no dimple and then pinching the bottom of the knot so it bumps outward. I tried tying one just now like that myself to snap a pic of but I couldn't do it! I guess dimples are unavoidable b/c of my left handed freakishness or I just need practice (Not that I will, I don't like the way it looks anyway.)

    Perhaps what I've seen are the double dimple but with the dimples on the sides so small that I haven't noticed them. What is noticeable is the prominent bulge outward in the middle by pinching.

    I don't know what the correct name for it is, or if there even is one, but I saw one site describe it as "thrust" and liked that term.

    A description from this site

     
  14. Tomasso

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    you mean double dimple?
    [​IMG]


    That looks like a failed knot, something that I'd retie.

    Here's a photo of AlanC's beautifully executed double dimple, though he claims it was happenstance.

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Vintage Gent

    Vintage Gent Senior member

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    I'm definately a fan of the single dimple, although a tie is an organic thing; some simply have natural tendency to default into a double dimple.
     
  16. bachbeet

    bachbeet Senior member

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    Dimples. It's really the only good look for a tie.
     
  17. javyn

    javyn Senior member

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    Kind of off topic, but I'm wondering, what in the hell can I do with my black tie that doesn't match any of my other blacks? I bought this back when I was thinking all black is the same. I can't really find anything it goes with. The idea was to wear it with my black suit for funerals.

    N/M I'm just being obsessive...the mismatch isn't that noticeable
     
  18. gdl203

    gdl203 Senior member Dubiously Honored Affiliate Vendor

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    Kind of off topic, but I'm wondering, what in the hell can I do with my black tie that doesn't match any of my other blacks? I bought this back when I was thinking all black is the same. I can't really find anything it goes with. The idea was to wear it with my black suit for funerals.

    N/M I'm just being obsessive...the mismatch isn't that noticeable


    Wear it with lighter shade shirts (lighter blue, pink...) and light-to-medium grey or navy coats/suits (medium grey will look better than a dark charcoal).

    Check out Andrew H's auctions on eBay - he always seems to show his coats and suits with a black tie... Here are a couple ox examples:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  19. Jovan

    Jovan Senior member

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    I always dimple, though I'm not really a fan of the full Windsor. If anything I'll do a half Windsor, but my preference lies with the four in hand. Imperfect beauty is the best way to say why I like it the most.
     
  20. Charley

    Charley Senior member

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    There is no way to tie a tight knot that does not dimple.

    Limp knots are for limps.

    Center dimple is the better way to do it.
     

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