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I agree it's the risk factor that is higher and for me it's not worth it, it is also quite stiff compared to CJ scotch grain or EG country calf.it might just be that the risk factor is higher. I’ve got that leather as well from sons of Henry and I don’t have much creasing
It's not a blanket statement, it's just my opinion. If you get horween hatch grain there is a higher probability of having heavy creasing, for me this is a good reason to look for a different kind of grained leather.I guess everyone is free to do what they want but yeah these blanket statements are just silly. There's nothing wrong with Horween's hatchgrain.
That is not what I meant with loose grain. What I mean is that belly leather has a much looser fiber structure than back leather which has a very tight structure. This won't be covered by embossing the leather, scars etc are.Leather is expensive so a lot of makers use as much of the hide as they can which isn’t surprising. A good entry level company like TLB can click specifically around scars and marring and try to hide the fat rolls/stretch marks but it can be harder to identify them on hides that have been embossed like @j ingevaldsson mentioned because the embossing will hide a lot of them.
A lot of times people just kind of refer to this as “loose grain” as a blanket statement and call it that but my understanding is that’s not always what it is.
I think that's just some weird thing that came out of Saint Crispin's using thin Polish crust leather that creases rather heavily (because it's thin, not because it's crust). In general, it's surely not the case and don't think people believe it's the case either, you may have wax gather up in the creasing a bit more making it lighter coloured but that's a different thing.LOL.... crust leather is also known to have "worse creasing", should we also avoid using crust leather?
Looking back at these pictures - I'd be curious how these fit the OP. Looking more closely this doesn't look like grain break, loose grain, delamination etc to me. I say that mainly because the creasing is near identical on both shoes.Let me preface this by saying I like the brand and I've seen some really nice shoes from them. However my personal experience has been a bit disappointing, especially with regard to leather quality. Here's what my pair of Artista 135 STDs look like after being worn 4 times in good conditions. I don't really know what to think...
They're the correct size and fit fairly snug on me. I only wish they had more support around the heel. Here's another picture after I gave them a good brushing (no cream).Looking back at these pictures - I'd be curious how these fit the OP. Looking more closely this doesn't look like grain break, loose grain, delamination etc to me. I say that mainly because the creasing is near identical on both shoes.
The shoes also look either dusty or like they have dried wax on them. Be curious what they looked like after some cream polish or a brushing.
To me it looks like bad clipping and I am afraid there isn't much you can do about it. I have very similar creasing on a pair of boots with same leather (but from a different maker) and the same dry look as well.
Funny story here. My wife lost her Headphone Jack Adapter and was very upset about this. She did those pictures for me also, because she is a better photographer and I was busy. And she didn't notice that the adapter was inside the boot while shooting, so she took the boot upside down to take a photo of the sole and the adapter fell outThose look great. But, may I ask why is there a charger cable?
I concur with this. The pair with the worst creasing in my collection happens to be of Horween Hatch. My impression from handling the swatches is that this leather is more plastic-y than other leather options.To me it looks like bad clipping and I am afraid there isn't much you can do about it. I have very similar creasing on a pair of boots with same leather (but from a different maker) and the same dry look as well.
As I mentioned before I have the impression that Hatchgrain has a higher probability of having severe creasing compared to other embossed leathers. When I visited one of of the Northampton factories a worker told me they stopped using the leather as they had multiple problem with it and several customers complained. I hope it doesn't sound like a blanket statement but for me this is a sufficient reason to avoid this leather going forward.
This is how a pair of TLB Bryan last F width boots fit on me. I'm very thin, so your mileage may vary.I wonder if they changed the opening of the shaft. I remember members saying that the shaft is really wide.
That part of my leg is also skinny. I am very picky so for me not acceptable unless the last keeps my foot in place sufficiently.This is how a pair of TLB Bryan last F width boots fit on me. I'm very thin, so your mileage may vary.
Also, what do you think about a shaft that fit in this way? Is it acceptable? If not, can you recommend some low to mid priced boots with a narrower leg opening?
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