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  1. oscarthewild

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    Really?
     


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    here's an article from January 11, UK Guardian, on the 100th birthday of Albert Hoffman:
     


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    Dakota rube Stylish Dinosaur

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    As one who has taken LSD and other hallucinogenics hundreds of times (but none for the last 25 years) I cannot for the life of me understand how there can be a constructive medical use.
     


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    lawyerdad Stylish Dinosaur

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    As one who has taken LSD and other hallucinogenics hundreds of times (but none for the last 25 years) I cannot for the life of me understand how there can be a constructive medical use.
    Well of course you can't understand it, you've fried your brains with all those drugs, you old hippy!
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    lawyerdad Stylish Dinosaur

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    Or maybe you haven't take enough. It's definitely one or the other.
     


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    As one who has taken LSD and other hallucinogenics hundreds of times (but none for the last 25 years) I cannot for the life of me understand how there can be a constructive medical use.
    If I recall correctly what I read some years ago, LSD was developed by psychiatrists to treat certain mental illnesses. The early tests, conducted in the 50s, were considered clinically successful and written up in the journals. Ken Kesey was actually one of the test subjects. Back then, the stuff being so new, it was not illegal. The government probably didn't even know about it. Kesey ruined it for the docs by taking it outside the hospital and using it for play. That's what eventually got the stuff banned and all the trials stopped. A lot of the researchers were pissed off and thought that a promising treatment had been abused and then unfairly shut down. I think something like this account is given in Wolfe's Electric Koolaid Acid Test.
     


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    Richard Alpert and Timothy Leary were two of the mental health professionals at Harvard who championed LSD and ended up becoming its proselytizers. Alpert later stopped using drugs and changed his name to Ram Dass. Leary, well, we know the story.
     


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    I can see in the right enviroment, maybe, it could be used to treat patients but it is like handling nitro. I don't know.

    I think only sane, emotionally stable people, people who don't need help, should use it.

    Preventing it's use professionally is stupid and ignorant.

    I don't believe Jim Morrison took ten thousand mics before performing.[​IMG]
     


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    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...a213221D59.DTL
     


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    I used LSD in my college years and while I am glad I did, I would never do it again. The first four hours were great, just incredible, but you eventually just want to turn your brain off, unclench your teeth, and get some effing sleep. The effect it has on your brain is amazing, somewhat scary that it can affect you so much and that your grip on reality is that loose in the first place.
    I do not see how a chemical that affects your brain so profoundly could not have any side effects from long-term use.
     


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    I used LSD in my college years and while I am glad I did, I would never do it again. The first four hours were great, just incredible, but you eventually just want to turn your brain off, unclench your teeth, and get some effing sleep. The effect it has on your brain is amazing, somewhat scary that it can affect you so much and that your grip on reality is that loose in the first place.
    I do not see how a chemical that affects your brain so profoundly could not have any side effects from long-term use.

    +1 Exactly my experience as well. It is the lack of sleep at the end that kills.
     


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    i'll leave the questions of utility and side effects for the psychiatrists to decide...if they're ever allowed to research it.

    i'm about as likely to take LSD recreationally as I am to get crazy with any legal prescription mood-altering drug.
     


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    I knew that behind the facades you were all just a bunch of f'ing hippies!
     


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    One of the things about hallucinogens that always scared me was the utter lack of quality control. Two friends of mine and I injested some acid one night and went on to smoke and drink for a couple hours. One of my pals and I were not getting any buzz from the acid, so I went to the guy from whom I'd purchased it and demanded (get this!) not a refund, but three more hits!

    My pal and I ate the additional dose and went back to the party and tracked down the third member of our merry little band to give him his. He looked at us and just about freaked out. "No way am I taking another one of these," he said. He'd started coming on in the last few minutes.

    Like real humanitarians, we insisted he eat the second hit (along with us, of course). We proceeded to party like rock stars for about 16 hours!

    BTW: the guy who supplied the goodies is now a member of Congress!
     


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